'So-called' wine expert
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
'So-called' wine expert
1513
Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
Harry J wrote:hi; galil mt meron 07. very good,powerfull with a nice long finish.wild goat 3 grape blend,this ones off for me.perhaps the bonarda grape throws it off.h
And Gabriel-the har tabor '12 cab is in a different leauge probably than the '11,my 2 cents.
Isaac Chavel wrote:Is Hagafen not what it used to be? I am getting this impression from TN"s for quite awhile, say, a couple of years.
'So-called' wine expert
1513
Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
Isaac Chavel wrote:Pinchas,
My take is that in the early days Hagafen wines were the go-to wines for reliable quality. One hardly ever heard a disappointment with any of their wines. My impression, and I admit it's only an impression, that since they expanded their offerings with especially high-end wines I read disappointing reviews more often than I expected. If I only read about less-than-great in their basic series, I would say they are keeping the best grapes for the top tier. But I am coming across, on occasion, less-than-stellar reviews for prix series wines. In theory, that should never happen.
Maybe expansions of one's lines has to be handled very carefully.
The unflattering reviews seem to come from those who prefer a different style than that which is offered by Ernie. Ernie's wines are consistently restrained in their oak and alcohol levels, whereas many on this forum prefer blockbuster wines. Additionally, when purchasing wines from Hagafen you should distinguish between the mainstays, those wines for which Hagafen is renowned, such as their Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc and Rieslings, and the others.
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