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Jenise wrote:Interesting discussion. FWIW, I can't recall the last time I so much as laid eyes on a bottle of California Cab Franc. It's grown here for blending but we don't see much of it as a single variety. In fact, I know of a great old vines vineyard of it that was recently ripped out so that dolcetto could be planted instead. I kid you not, dolcetto.
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David M. Bueker wrote:Jenise wrote:Interesting discussion. FWIW, I can't recall the last time I so much as laid eyes on a bottle of California Cab Franc. It's grown here for blending but we don't see much of it as a single variety. In fact, I know of a great old vines vineyard of it that was recently ripped out so that dolcetto could be planted instead. I kid you not, dolcetto.
Hey, don't knock Dolcetto. Sam Bilbro (Idlewild) is doing great things with his Dolcetto.
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Patchen Markell wrote:The California ones I see most in Chicago are from Lang & Reed -- IIRC, they do a North Coast bottling that's sub-$25, and also a pricier one from a relatively cool downriver vineyard in Napa. I've enjoyed these a lot in the past. Also, to add to the New York State recommendations above, which I'll watch for, we had very nice North Fork Cab Franc from Bedell about a year ago... it was in a restaurant, so not sure of the retail price.
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the retail market has changed and the in-store consultants who loved, and therefore stocked, things like that are gone.
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Patchen Markell wrote:the retail market has changed and the in-store consultants who loved, and therefore stocked, things like that are gone.
Your comment makes me think that I should give credit where it's due: I bought the Ryme at Pastoral, a very small, 2- or maybe 3-location shop in Chicago that sells sandwiches and prepared foods, cheese, charcuterie, bread, imported delicacies (Sicilian pistachio crema!)... and wine. They probably stock, say, 30 or 40 wines at a time, mostly in the $20-35 range. Usually, I'll recognize perhaps 10 things, all of which will appeal to me (Baudry "Les Granges"! Edmunds St. John!) And another 10 will appeal to me on the strength of the handwritten shelf talkers and the buyer's generally strong record. When I think about it, it's one of those small urban miracles. Long may it prosper.
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