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Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Dean E. » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:48 pm

We are sailing around South America next week on the Queen Mary 2 We will be aboard for 26 days, traveling from Ft Lauderdale, around the horn, and then back home to San Francisco.

I was able to obtain a copy the QM2's wine list and have posted it online...


We drink primarily reds, and would like recommendations for wines for under $45 USD for every night drinking, although thoughts on occasional splurges or special occasion wines would also be welcome...

Please take a look at the wine list and give us any suggestions or thoughts.

http://www.echenberg.org/winelist/winelist.pdf


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Here's the list in (messy) text format

by Robin Garr » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:40 pm

Dean, welcome to the forum! I'm glad we got that username/password issue sorted out.

I exported the PDF winelist as text so we can look at it right here in the forum. It came out kind of messy - some cryptic codes, and it runs the vintage into the price in a form like "1998100.00", which should read as "1998 $100.00", but I still think it might make it a little easier for folks to be able to skim the list right here:

C........ . S........ W....

P....... .

010 Louis Roederer, Cristal, Reims 1997325.00
012 Moët & Chandon, Cuvée Dom Pérignon, Epernay 1996135.00

016 Taittinger, Comtes de Champagne, Reims 1993125.00
018 Veuve Clicquot, La Grande Dame, Reims 1993150.00

V...... .

022 Bollinger, Grande Année, Ay 1996120.00

028 Veuve Clicquot, Reserve, Reims 199875.00

030 Veuve Clicquot, Rich Reserve, Reims 199875.00

N..-V...... .

040 Moët & Chandon, Brut Imperial, Epernay45.00
042 Piper-Heidsieck, Brut, Reims45.00
044 Perrier-Jouët, Grand Brut, Epernay35.00
046 Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin, Brut, Reims50.00

048 Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin, Demi Sec50.00

050 Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin Brut, Reims, (Magnum)100.00

052 Mumm, Cordon Rouge, Brut, Reims44.00

Champagne is normally
made from three grape
varieties; Pinot Noir for
body, Pinot Meunier for
fruitiness and Chardonnay
for longevity and finesse.
.e blend which
will depend on the individual
Champagne house
style, is normally 2/3 red
grapes (Pinot Noir and
Meunier) and 1/3 white
(Chardonnay)

“Brut” is French for dry. It
is used on labels of a very
dry Champagne.

“Extra dry” on a label may
sound like it’s even drier,
but it’s not. It is actually
slightly less dry

Champagne than “Brut”.



P....... R... .

058 Veuve Clicquot, La Grande Dame, Reims 1995295.00

R... .

064 Taittinger, Cuvée Prestige, Reims NV75.00

066 Veuve Clicquot, Reserve, Reims75.00

093 Korbel Rose, Sonoma25.00

S........ W... .

081 Korbel, Brut, Sonoma22.00

083 Domaine Chandon, Brut Cuvee, Napa Valley28.00

086 Martini & Rossi, Asti Spumante, Italy22.00

087 Pol Acker, Blanc de Blanc, France24.00

“I drink it when I’m happy
and when I’m sad. Sometimes
I drink it when I’m
alone. When I have company,
I consider it obligatory.
I trifle with it when
I’m not hungry and drink
it when I am, otherwise I
never touch it - unless I’m
thirsty” –

Madam Lilly Bollinger’s
reply to being asked why
she drank Champagne.



B.. E.. L...

.... .... ......

From time to time all great things must come to an end. Please find below a
selection of wines that are now de- listed or currently running out of stock. .is
is due to either vintage changes or wines that are becoming more rare to find,
that one day will no longer be available. I can guarantee they are great wines at
quality prices. Please note that due to availability some of these wines may be
out of stock .

Sam Shaje

Chief Sommelier

C........ . S........ W.... .

002 Krug, Grand Cuvée, Reims NV150.00

008 Laurent Perrier, Grand Siecle NV105.00

014 Salon, Blanc de Blanc, Le mesnil 1995250.00

024 Deutz, Blanc de Blancs, Reims 199695.00

054 Cristal Rosé, Louis Roederer; Reims 1996300.00

056 Dom Perignon, Rosé, Moët & Chandon, Epernay 1996245.00

070 Codorniu Cuvee Raventos, Spain24.00

W.... W.... .

100 Catena Chardonnay, Mendoza 200338.00

124 Bründlmayer , Riesling, Kamptaler Terrassen 200246.00

132 Casa Lapostolle, Sauvignon Blanc, Rapel Valley 200322.00

160 Bienvenue-Bâtard-Montrachet, Vincent Leflaive 2000315.00

161 Bienvenue-Bâtard-Montrachet, Domaine Ramonet 1998325.00

174 Mersault, Louis Latour 200154.00

176 Mersault Premier Cru “Poruzots”, Olivier Leflaive 200088.00
210 Erbacher Marcobrunn, Riesling Auslese,

Schloss Schönborn, Rheingau (500ml) 199558.00

220 Josephshöfer, Riesling Kabinett, von Kesselstatt, Mosel 200232.00

236 Orvieto Classico ”Campogrande”, Antinori, Umbria 200220.00



W.... W.... (CONTINUED) .

250 Vintage Tunina, Jermann, Friuli 200158.00

264 Vinho Verde, Quinta da Azevedo, 200220.00

300 Artesa Chardonnay, Carneros 200130.00

304 Bernardus Chardonnay, Monterey County 200130.00

306 Chateau Montelena Chardonnay, Napa Valley 200142.00

316 Hanzell Chardonnay, Sonoma Valley 200075.00

324 Patz & Hall “Hyde Vineyard”, Russian River Valley 200065.00

325 Patz & Hall “Dutton Ranch” , Russian River Valley 200065.00

354 Bonny Doon Riesling “Pacific Rim”, California 200222.00

ROSÉ .

388 Tavel, Paul Jaboulet 200232.00
384 Marsannay, Bruno Clair, Burgundy 199826.00

R.. W.... .

450 Blaufränkisch, Walter Glatzer, Carnuntum 200234.00

568 Château Leoville Barton, St. Julien 1982195.00

576 Les Feifs de Lagrange, St. Julien 199938.00

586 Pommard, Louis Latour 199856.00

642 Cairanne, Domaine Catherine le Goeuil 200132.00

654 Gigondas, E. Guigal 200038.00

688 Rosso di Montalcino, Castello Banfi 200128.00

686 Mandrielle, Merlot, Castello Banfi 199952.00

706 Corvo, Duca di Salaparuta, Sicily 200220.00

718 Spy Valley, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 200138.00

762 Tinto Pesquera, Bodegas A. Fernandez, Duero 200142.00

806 Chateau Montelena , Cabernet Sauvignon 200042.00

814 Groth “Reserve”, Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley 1997160.00

820 Kendall-Jackson “Grand Reserve”, California 199944.00

844 Opus One, Mondavi/Rothschild, Napa Valley 1985695.00

850 York Creek, Spring Mountain, Napa Valley 199672.00

886 Bonny Doon,Le Cigare Volant, California 199742.00

888 Flora Springs, Sangiovese, Napa Valley 200228.00

B.. E.. W.... ... ....... .. ......., ... .. .... ... ....... .. ............



W.... W....

A........ .

102 Bodegas Lurton, Pinot Gris, Mendoza 200422.00

A........ .

106 Cape Mentelle Chardonnay, Margaret River 200238.00

108 Lindemans Chardonnay Reserve, South Australia 200328.00

110 Petaluma Chardonnay, Adelaide Hills 200342.00

114 Mitchelton Marsanne, Goulburn Valley, Victoria 200422.00

116 Petaluma Riesling, Clare Valley 200330.00

118 Rosemount Chardonnay, S.E. Australia 200426.00

A...... .

122 Nigl Grüner Veltliner, Kremser Freiheit,Kremstal 200336.00

C.... .

130 Errazuriz Chardonnay Reserva “La Escultura Estate”,

Casablanca 200430.00

134 Caliterra Chardonnay, Valle Central 200424.00

136 Santa Carolina, Sauvignon Blanc, Rapel Valley 200420.00

F..... (WHITE) .

A.....

140 Trimbach Gewurztraminer 200230.00

142 Schlumberger Pinot Blanc “Les Prince Abbés” 200324.00

144 Hugel Pinot Gris 200134.00

148 Trimbach Riesling “Cuveé Frédéric Émile” 200058.00

Australia’s wine industry is
dominated by relatively few
large corporations. .ese
companies produce 80% of
all Australian Wine.



F..... (CONTINUED) .

B.......

152 Château Olivier, Pessac-Léognan 200148.00

156 Château Smith-Haut-Lafitte, Graves 199895.00

B.......

162 Chablis AC, Domaine Laroche 200428.00

164 Chablis Grand Cru “Les Clos”, William Fèvre 200195.00

166 Chablis Premier Cru “Les Fourchaumes”, Domaine Laroche 200242.00
168 Chassagne-Montrachet, Louis Latour 200265.00

170 Corton-Charlemagne, Bonneau du Martray 1999220.00
180 Pouilly-Fuissé, Louis Jadot 200332.00

186 St. Véran “Vieilles Vignes”, Roger. Luquet 200028.00

188 Puligny Montrachet, Moillard 200272.00

L.... V.....

190 Muscadet, Domaine Manoir 200320.00
192 Pouilly-Fumé “Baron de L”, de Ladoucette 200080.00

194 Pouilly-Fumé, de Ladoucette 200242.00
196 Sancerre, Pascal Jolivet 200434.00
198 Vouvray Sec, Marc Brédif 200228.00

R.... V.....

202 Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc, “La Bernardine”, Chapoutier 2003 52.00

205 Condrieu, M. Chapotier 200384.00

206 Hermitage Blanc, Etienne Guigal 200062.00

.e largest city in Burgundy
is not famous for
its wine, but for another
world famous product.
.e city is Dijon and the
product is mustard.

.e Loire is France’s longest
river, running for
more than 6oo miles. .e
Queen Mary 2 was built
at the Chantier d’Atlantic
shipyard located at the
mouth of the Loire river,
which is also the home of
the Muscadet wine.



G...... .

212 Erbacher Marcobrunn, Riesling Kabinett,

Schloss Schönborn, Rheingau 200236.00

214 Oppenheimer Sackträger, Riesling Spätlese Trocken,

Güntrum, Rheinhessen 200230.00

216 Hattenheimer Pfaffenberg, Riesling Spätlese,

Schloss Schönborn, Rheingau 199738.00

218 Niersteiner, Gutes Domtal, Rheinhessen 200422.00

222 Piesporter, Goldtröpfchen, Mosel 200326.00

I.... .

230 Chardonnay “La Pietra”, Cabreo Ruffino, Tuscany 200038.00
232 Gavi di Gavi, La Scolca, Piedmont 200354.00
238 Pinot Bianco, Alois Lageder, Alto Adige 200224.00

242 Pinot Grigio, Santa Margherita, Valdadige 200434.00

244 Sauvignon Blanc, Serena, Castello Banfi 200332.00

246 Soave Classico, Pieropan, Veneto 200422.00

248 Tocai Friulano, Marco Felluga, Friuli 200328.00

252 Pinot Grigio, Danzante, Veneto 200328.00

K..... .

228 Baron Herzog, Chardonnay25.00

N.. Z...... .

254 Selaks, Riesling, Marlborough 200328.00

256 Cloudy Bay, Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough 200440.00

258 Kumeu River, Chardonnay, Auckland 200258.00

262 Nobilo, Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough 200426.00

One easy way of distinguishing
a Rhein wine
from a Mosel wine is to
look at the bottle. Rhein
wines have brown bottles
and Mosel wines have
green bottles.

It was the Sauvignon
Blanc that made the
world take notice of
New Zealand as a wine
producer. .e varietals
showed an array of flavor
that no one could
ignore, and more importantly,
no other part of
the world has been able
to replicate.



S.... A..... .

274 Vergelegen Sauvignon Blanc, Stellenbosch 200424.00



S.... .

278 Chardonnay, Raimat, Costers del Segre 200432.00

282 Albariño, Pazo de Barrantes, Rias Baixas 200334.00

U..... S..... .

CALIFORNIA

C.........

284 Sequoia Grove, Carneros 200238.00

287 Wente Estate, Livermore Valley 200320.00

288 Sylvester, Kiara Reserve, Paso Robles 200222.00

290 Fetzer, Echo Ridge, Valley Oaks 200424.00

292 Robert Mondavi,” Private Selection” Napa Valley 200326.00

294 Kendall-Jackson, “Vintners Reserve” Lake County 200330.00

296 Beringer, Napa Valley 200332.00

302 Beringer “Private Reserve”, Napa Valley 200154.00

306 Chateau Montelena, Napa Valley 200346.00

308 Cuvaison, Carneros 200334.00

310 Ferrari-Carano, Alexander Valley 200238.00

312 Geyser Peak, Russian River 200128.00

322 Benziger Sonoma 200234.00

330 Sanford, Santa Barbara 200130.00

332 Shafer “Red Shoulder Ranch”, Carneros 200254.00

334 Sonoma-Cutrer, Russian River Ranches 200336.00

S........ B....

338 Fetzer, Echo Ridge 200322.00

346 Matanzas Creek, Sonoma 200136.00

348 Groth, Napa Valley 200432.00

358 Kenwood, Sonoma 200324.00

Napa Valley is considered
by many as the most important
wine region in
California. Surprisingly
less than 5% of all wines
made in California is produced
in Napa.



U..... S..... (CONTINUED) .

W.... V........

352 Swanson Pinot Grigio, Napa Valley 200334.00

370 Joseph Phelps Voignier, Napa Valley 200244.00

372 Eberle Viognier, Mill Road 200234.00

OREGON

362 King Estate Pinot Gris Reserve, Willamette Valley 200234.00

WASHINGTON STATE

368 Eroica Riesling, Dr. Loosen/Chateau Ste Michelle,

Columbia Valley 200432.00

R... W...

.

382 Beringer, White Zinfandel, California 200422.00

385 Woodbridge, White Zinfandel 200420.00

386 Sancerre, Pascal Jolivet 200434.00

“.e discovery of a wine
is a greater moment than
the discovery of a constellation.
.e universe is too
full of stars.”

– Benjamin Franklin



R.. W....

A........ .

400 Terrazas Reserva, Malbec, Mendoza 200328.00

402 Septima Malbec, Mendoza 200326.00

A........ .

C....... S........

406 Cape Mentelle, Margaret River 199948.00

408 Penfolds Bin 407, Coonawarra 200236.00

410 Wolf Blass “Yellow Label,” South Australia 200325.00

414 Rosemount, South East Australia 200326.00

S.....

418 Millfield, Hunter Valley 200034.00

420 Penfolds Grange, South Australia 1991415.00

422 Penfolds Grange, South Australia 1995325.00

424 Penfolds Grange, South Australia 1997195.00

426 Penfolds, St. Henri, South Australia 200165.00

428 Rosemount Balmoral Syrah, McClaren Vale 200062.00

430 Rosemount, S.E. Australia 200327.00

B.... ... V........

436 Banrock Station Shiraz-Cabernet, South Australia 200320.00
438 Clarendon Hills Old Vine Grenache, McClaren Vale 199856.00

440 Lindemans Bin 40 Merlot, South Australia 200420.00
444 Penfolds Bin 389 Shiraz-Cabernet, South Australia 200142.00

446 Wolf Blass “Black Label”, South Australia 200062.00

As the creator of Penfolds
Grange, Max Schubert is
without doubt the most
important and influential
figure in the modern
Australian wine industry.
Almost single-handedly,
Schubert li.ed Australia’s
table wine industry
out of mediocrity in the
1950’s, a time when more
than 90 percent of wine
consumed in Australia
was sherry, port or other
fortified wine. In the
wine Olympiad in Paris,
his 1971 Grange shocked
the French by winning
the Shiraz class against
top wines from France’s
Rhone Valley - .e home
of Shiraz.



C.... .

452 Terrunyo, Concha y Toro, Cabernet Sauvignon, Maipo Valley 200138.00

456 Escudo Rojo, Cabernet Sauvignon, Maipo Valley 200226.00

458 Don Melchor, Concha y Toro, Cabernet Sauvignon, Maipo Valley 2001 .58.00

462 Casa Lapostolle Merlot “Cuvée Alexandre”, Rapel Valley 200338.00

464 Santa Carolina, Cabernet Sauvignon, Reserve 200322.00

466 Santa Carolina, Merlot, Reserve 200222.00

F..... .

BORDEAUX

P..... – L...... ( G.... )

470 Château Bouscaut 199848.00

472 Château de Callac 200034.00

474 Château Haut-Brion 1996345.00

478 Château La Mission Haut-Brion 1994160.00

482 Château Carbonnieux 199785.00

H...-M....

484 Château Bel Air 200036.00

488 Château Coufran 199938.00

M......

494 Château de Clairefont 199835.00

496 Château Giscours 199755.00

498 Château Lascombes 1997125.00

503 Château Margaux 1999250.00

504 Château Palmer 1990195.00


.e world is starting to
take Chilean wine (seriously).
As late as 1996
only 100,000 cases of
wine were imported to
USA. By the new Millennium
the imports had increased
to 5 million cases

In 1977, Andre Mentzelopoulos,
a very wealthy
Frenchman, bought Château
Margaux, arguably
the most prestigious chateau
in Bordeaux. His
first vintage was the ’78.
He immediately instituted
immense improvements
in the vineyard
and “chais”, renovating
the historic château itself.
Since his untimely death
in 1980, his daughter
Corrine, with charm and
determination, has headed
up a first-rate team.



F..... (CONTINUED) .

P.......

512 Château ClercMilon 199885.00

516 Château Lafite-Rothschild 1970375.00

518 Château Lafite-Rothschild 19821,250.00

520 Château Lafite-Rothschild 1993325.00

522 Château Latour 1988375.00

524 Château Lynch-Bages 1999125.00

526 Château Mouton-Rothschild 1990425.00

528 Château Mouton-Rothschild 1993325.00

P......

536 Château Beauregard 199985.00

538 Château La Croix, Lalande 200138.00

540 Château L’Evangile 1996155.00

542 Château Pétrus 19892,650.00

543 Château Pétrus 1979980.00

S.. E......

546 Château Cheval Blanc 1996375.00

550 Château Haut-Cormey 200026.00

554 Château Pavie 199685.00

S.. E......

558 Château Beau-Site 199844.00

560 Château Cos d’Estournel 1999155.00

562 Château Montrose 1997120.00

S.. J.....

570 Château Léoville-Las Cases 1998295.00

572 Château Talbot 199585.00

574 Clos du Marquis 199865.00

As a general rule of thumb,
red wines from the area
on the le. bank of the Gironde
river (Medoc) are
dominated by Cabernet
Sauvignon and those on
the right bank (Pomerol
& St.Emilion ) are dominated
by Merlot.



F..... (CONTINUED) .

BURGUNDY

C....-D.-B.....

582 Côtes-de-Beaune Villages, Olivier Leflaive 200144.00

584 Mercurey, Faiveley, Côtes Chalonnaise 200134.00

588 Santenay, Faiveley 200038.00

590 Volnay, Jean Marc Boillot 200156.00

C....-D.-N....

594 Côtes-de-Nuits Villages, Faiveley 200036.00

598 Gevrey-Chambertin, Vincent Girardin 200075.00

600 Gevrey-Chambertin, Louis Latour 200252.00

602 Grand Echezeaux, Domaine de la Romanee Conti 1994675.00

604 La Tâche, Domaine de la Romanée Conti 1994725.00

610 Musigny “Vieilles Vignes”, Comte de Vogüé 19901,150.00

612 Nuits-St-Georges, Louis Latour 199565.00

B.........

620 Beaujolais Villages, Louis Latour 200222.00

624 Moulin-á-Vent, Château de Jacques 200232.00

R.... V.....

644 Châteauneuf-du-Pape, Château de Mont-Redon 200142.00

648 Côtes-du-Rhône, Marc Dudet 200426.00

650 Côte-Rôtie “Brune & Blonde”, Etienne Guigal 199760.00

656 Hermitage, “Marquise de la Tourette”, Delas Frères 199988.00

I.... .

PIEDMONT

664 Barbera d’Asti, Michele Chiarlo 200134.00

666 Barbera “Sitorey”, Angelo Gaja 199960.00

668 Barbaresco, Angelo, Gaja 1999225.00

670 Barolo, Beni di Batasiolo 200142.00

Although it is generally
agreed that Burgundy is
a complex wine region
to understand, it has one
forgiving feature. By law
all red Burgundies must
be made from Pinot Noir.

Châteauneuf-du-Pape
means the Popes new
castle. And the name
came from the relocation
of the papal court
to French Arignon in the
14th century.



I.... (CONTINUED) .

TUSCANY

676 Brunello di Montalcino, Castello Banfi 199965.00

678 Brunello di Montalcino, Altesino 1998255.00

680 Chianti Classico “Peppoli”, Villa Antinori 200328.00

682 Chianti Classico Riserva, “Tenute Marchese”, Antinori 199945.00

684 Ornellaia, Ludovico Antinori 2000185.00

690 Santa Cristina, Villa Antinori 200222.00

692 Sassicaia, Tenute San Guido 2002145.00

694 Summus, Castello Banfi, 199968.00

696 Tignanello, Villa Antinori, 200085.00

698 Vino Nobile de Montepulciano, Avignonese 200138.00

700 Luce Della Vite, Mondavi & Frescobaldi 200069.00

VENETO

702 Amarone Classico Costasera, Masi 200156.00

704 Valpolicella, Bolla 200320.00

OTHER REGIONS

708 Taurasi, Feudi di San Gregorio, Campania 199858.00

K..... .

660 Baron Herzog, Cabernet Sauvignon 200020.00

N.. Z...... .

716 Villa Maria Merlot-Cabernet, Auckland 200238.00

P....... .

728 Duas Quintas, Ramos Pinto, Duoro 200228.00

730 Periquita, J. M. Fonseca, Azeitao 199926.00

Italy is the world’s largest
producer of wine. It has
been producing wine for
more than 3000 years and
the vines grow everywhere.
.ere are vineyards from
Sicily in the south to the
foothills of the Alps in the
north. .e whole of Italy is
one vast vineyard



S.... A..... .

742 Boschendal Cabernet Sauvignon, Franschhoek 200228.00

744 Meerlust Rubicon, Stellenbosch 200048.00

746 Warwick Estate Pinotage, Stellenbosch 200338.00

S.... .

750 Alion Reserva, Vega Sicilia, Ribera del Duero 200188.00

752 Alvario Palacios “Les Terrasses”, Priorat 200242.00

754 La Vica Landa” Bilbainas” Reserva, Rioja 199938.00

756 Condado de Haza, Bodegas A. Fernandez,

Ribera del Duero 200142.00

758 EVO, Bodegas Guelbenzu, Navarra 200232.00

760 Marqués de Murrieta Gran Reserva, Castillo Ygay, Rioja 199550.00

768 Solar de Samaniego Crianza, Rioja 200136.00

770 Mas la Plana “Torres” Cabernet Sauvignon, Penedes 199958.00

772 Unico,Vega Sicilia, Ribera del Duero 1990525.00

U..... S..... .

CALIFORNIA

C....... S........

778 Woodbridge, Twin Oaks, Napa Valley 200120.00

780 Sylvester, Kiara Reserve, Paso Robles 200222.00

782 Robert Mondavi, Private Selection, Napa Valley 200226.00

784 Fetzer, Valley Oaks 200126.00

786 Kendall-Jackson, Vinters Reserve, Lake County 200130.00

788 Kenwood, Jack London Vineyard, Sonoma 200239.00

790 Arrowood, Sonoma 200044.00

792 Robert Mondavi, Napa Reserve 1999109.00

802 Caymus “Special Selection”, Napa Valley 2000155.00

804 Chateau Souverain, Alexander Valley 200138.00

809 Wente Estate, Livermore Valley 200220.00

816 Honig, Napa Valley 199748.00

830 Silver Oak, Alexander Valley 200088.00

.e Torres family has
been credited with doing
for Spanish wine what
Robert Mondavi did for
Californian wine. .e
Torres name shot to fame
in 1976 when Torres Mas
La Plana won gold in the
Paris “Wine Olympics”.



U..... S..... (CONTINUED) .

M.......

838 Dominus, Chrisian Moieux, Napa Valley 2000135.00

840 Insignia, Joseph Phelps, Napa Valley 2000165.00

842 Legacy, Alexander Valley 199848.00

848 Opus One, Mondavi/Rothschild, Napa Valley 2000175.00

M.....

794 Round Hill, Napa Valley 200220.00

796 Robert Mondavi, Private Selection, Napa Valley 200326.00

798 Fetzer, Valley Oaks 200126.00

801 Kendall-Jackson, Sonoma 200230.00

852 Benziger, Sonoma 200134.00

856 Chateau St. Jean, Sonoma 200144.00

860 Ferrari-Carano, Sonoma 200236.00

864 Schug, Heritage Reserve, Sonoma 199944.00

P.... N...

866 Byron, Santa Maria 200238.00

870 “J” Wine Company, Russian River 200342.00

872 Hanzell, Sonoma Valley 199988.00

878 Williams Selyem “Rochioli-Riverblock”, Russian River Valley 2002150.00

894 Robert Mondavi, Central Coast 200426.00

Z........

882 Frog’s Leap, Napa Valley 200238.00

908 Seghesio, Sonoma 200328.00

R.. V........

890 Geyser Peak Shiraz, Sonoma 200128.00

.e list of California
wines is temptingly extensive.
Christian Mouiex of
Château Petrus fame has
successfully stepped into
the Napa Valley to produce
Dominus, a beautifully
balanced ‘Meritage’
blend. Another irresistible
wine, Insignia, is
one of the oldest and
best ‘Meritage’ blends, the
brainchild of the Napa
Veteran producer, Joseph
Phelps.



OREGON

896 King Estate Reserve Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley 200052.00

898 Lorane Valley Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley 200328.00

WASHINGTON STATE

900 Chateau St. Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon “Cold Creek”,

Columbia Valley 200045.00

902 Kiona Merlot, Columbia Valley 199930.00

904 Hogue Syrah, “Genesis”, Columbia Valley 200034.00

What you choose to drink
with your meal is down
to each individual’s taste
and preferences. Tom
Jordan of Jordan winery
recommends roast lamb
with the flavors of Cabernet
Sauvignon. Robert
Mondavi suggests game
such as grouse and caribou.
Bo Barrett of Chateau
Montelena enjoys a
good rib-eye, barbequed
with a teriyaki-soy-ginger
sesame marinade.
Jack Cakebread enjoys
his Cabernet Sauvignon
with farm raised salmon,
with a crispy potato
crust.

.e choice is yours!



D...... W...

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910 Bonny Doon “Vin de Glacière”, Muscat, California 2000 (375ml)26.00

912 Château Suduiraut, Sauternes 1997 (375ml)56.00
914 Château d’Yquem, Sauternes 1996 (375ml)195.00

915 Dolce Far Niente, Late Harvest, California (375ml) 199985.00
916 Gewurztraminer, Vendange Tardive, Trimbach, Alsace 1999 (375ml)38.00
918 Nivole, Moscato d’Asti, Michele Chiarlo, Italy 2002 (375ml)20.00

920 Trockenbeerenauslese #1, Kracher, Austria 2000 (375ml)64.00
922 Tokaji Aszu, Royal Nyulaszo, 6 Puttonyos, Hungary 1995 (500ml)95.00

924 Vidal Ice Wine, Magnotta, Canada 2003 (375 ml)40.00

P...

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934 Dows Vintage 1970250.00

935 Dow’s Vintage 1977165.00

936 Fonseca Vintage 1963560.00
938 Fonseca Vintage 1985155.00

939 Offley Boavista Vintage 1977135.00

944 Warre’s Vintage 1966265.00

945 Warre’s Vintage 1977140.00

M......

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950 Blandy’s Bual Vintage 1920450.00

952 Blandy’s Terrantez Vintage 1960300.00

956 Cossart Gordon Verdelho Vintage 1934270.00

958 Cossart Gordon Bual Solera Vintage 1845200.00

960 Cossart Gordon Malvasia Vintage 1977 110.00

962 Leacocks Sercial Vintage 1959160.00

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Re: Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Peter May » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:44 pm

Hi Dean

I'm reading your PDF on the link with no problems and thinking -- wow, what reasonable prices, there's a Veuve Cliquot Champagne for $50 (= 25.90 GBP) when I just paid 42.50 GBP ( 82 USD) in a UK hotel over the holidays.

Maybe the other prices aren't so generous, but I personally would go for the bin-ends e.g. wine 886 Cigare Volante 1997 ($47) and anything that was new to me.

The Spy Valley Pinot Noir at $38 seems good value and it had many fans. -- but I'm a bit concerned whether the wine list is up to date as they are showing a 2001 vintage and that seems a little old for a fast moving wine list, also number 256 Cloudy Bay SB seems too old at 2004 vintage when 2006 is in the shops but $40 in a restaurant seems a bargain, as does Penfolds Grange


I this the current wine list -- prices seem low and vintages are old?

(of course, my thoughts are affected by translating USD into GBP and the USD is very low at the moment)
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Re: Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Robin Garr » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:48 pm

Peter May wrote:Hi Dean

I'm reading your PDF on the link with no problems and thinking -- wow, what reasonable prices


Peter, by and large I was impressed also ... most of the list looks like pretty standard US restaurant pricing, about double retail. By cruise-ship standards, that's practically giving the stuff away, and that Tignanello at $84 particularly jumped out at me ... that's not far over retail for Tig.
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by Dave Erickson » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:53 pm

I'd definitely swing for the '96 Dom at $135. That's actually a deal.

The Antinori Orvieto for $20 is reasonable.

Bruno Clair Marsannay for $26 looks okay to me.

They're really gouging on the cheap stuff. $26 for Rosemount Chard? Get outta here!
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Re: Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Bob Ross » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:10 pm

Prices look pretty good to me generally, and I'm pretty certain there are a couple of wine lectures scheduled on this cruise -- a friend of mine is an entertainer on cruise ships and he likes briefing me on wine events in hopes of enticing me aboard. :-)

If there is one, ask the lecturer what they think would be good, at least if they do a good job with the lecture.

Here's a review of the wine on the QII from last summer -- the article is no longer on line although you may be able to find it on a cache:

Our only complaint was that although the wine selection was extensive, pleasantly global and remarkably reasonable, the service was chronically overwhelmed. Our first night, we ordered a pinot noir that would pair nicely with our appetizer and main course, but it didn't arrive until we'd finished the first course. On subsequent nights, our white wine would be kept in an ice bucket several paces off, but rarely did anyone come around to refill our glasses, a problem I ultimately remedied by retrieving the bottle and setting it on the table.

Neither did the ship have a list of wines by the glass. In any dining venue. We felt sorry for an Australian woman at our table who was traveling alone. When she inquired about a glass of wine, the sommelier said, ``Red wine, we have merlot, pinot noir, shiraz and cabernet sauvignon. Do you want to hear the white wines?'' Sorry, I need more than that _ country, label, price.

A staffer told me privately that the absence of a by-the-glass wine list was a Cunard decision; the line wants the servers to push bottles of wine instead.

But at least the bottle prices are reasonable. Having just been murdered by the markups in Dublin and London, we were thrilled to find reputable wines from California and Australia in the high $20s and low $30s.


Have a great cruise! [And grab your bottle and keep it at table. :-) ]
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Re: Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Hoke » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:25 pm

Echoing what Peter said: it's probably an old list that hasn't been updated for a while. The vintages are lagging. And if the list is old, then the prices are old.

The trouble with cruise line wine lists is they depend on the chandlering system---replenishing stocks only at certain times and in certain ports. And when they get wine on board, it tends to stay there until it is sold (hence the end-of-bin sale section). So if the steward puts something on the list that doesn't move it just stays there and gets older and older.

That said, and based on the list as is, I'd say that overall it is decent---you will be able to find some good wines in almost all categories, and at fairly good prices. But there's huge gaps as well. I'd say the quality is definitely higher in the European end than the American, and there's more little jewels to be found in the non-American category.

There's not much adventure or discovery going on, that's for sure. But that may be in keeping with the starchy conservative Cunard attitude as much as anything. They probably always default to the generic standards.

I'm not so much concerned with the winelist though, as I am appalled at the report posted with the passenger's comments. The service seemed appalling, and I hope it wasn't indicative of what you're going to experience. You pay a lot of money; you shouldn't receive such poor service. If you do, please complain loud and long to whomever will listen.
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by wnissen » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:32 pm

According to the file, the list is at the latest from September 2005, so it is indeed old, and presumably all the vintages have cycled by now. A far greater danger is that the weakness of the dollar against the pound has caused the prices to skyrocket.

That said, the pricing is certainly better than you'd find in pretty much any decent restaurant around here, and most of the selections are good quality. The high end is clearly where the deals are. If you've ever wanted to try Cristal Rose, it appears to be selling below retail. I also like the Schoenborn Spaetlese which has a good chance of being open for business. Enjoy yourself, and just stay away from the $20 bottles, when for $30 you can get real wine.

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by ClarkDGigHbr » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:07 pm

Wow ... I agree that by and large, these wine prices are pretty good. For example, last week I saw the NV Perrier-Jouet Grand Brut on sale locally for $30. It appears on that price list for $35. This is truly an example of reasonable wine pricing, as opposed to price gouging to take advantage of the fact that you have a captive clientele.

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by Paul Winalski » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:46 am

I dunno--I thought the prices to be shockingly high. But I've found most retail wine prices lately offensively high, such that I've bought almost nothing in the past 5 years. Let alone restaurant prices. So I suppose that in the context of what appears to me to be an outrageously inflated market, these restaurant/cruise ship prices aren't unreasonable.

Now I know how the Brits felt, when we Yanks entered the Bordeaux market with the 1982 vintage and ruined the previous pricing schema.

I'll pay through the nose for great wine experiences. But I'm sorry, I refuse to pay $30+ per bottle for a beverage that's acceptable (but no better) to drink with a meal.

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by Neil Courtney » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:52 am

One ploy to get good service can be to order a bottle of wine in the bar 30 minutes before dinner. The bar staff may need to ring through to the cellar master to get an unusual wine delivered to the bar, but they should be able to do this. Drink a glass each as an aperitif then take the remainder in to dinner with you. This would only work if you match the food to the wine and not vice versa.

As for choosing what to drink, I would try to drink a different wine in the price range each night. Only repeat exceptional bottles.
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by Bob Noland » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:43 am

You might want to check their policy on bringing aboard wine. I have done this with Holland who has a fairly liberal policy (corkage of $20 if brought to dinner, free otherwise) I have also found wine service lacking on the cruises and have had to "take" control of the situation. The on board wine events are interesting but mostly geared to newbies, we actually found the cooking classes to be much more entertaining.

Another option for food & wine pairing or when you only desire a glass may be possible. The staff on our last cruise was nice enough to put a cork in unfinished wine for use the next day.
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Re: Cunard Queen Mary 2 Wine list: Suggestions please

by Tim York » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:57 am

Go for Dom Perignon and Comtes de Champagne. DP 96 at $135 is almost a steal. The latest vintage, less stellar than 96, is on sale at a "discounted" price of EUR 125 at a local supermarket here in Belgium.

I have skimmed the rest of the list and the mark-ups look far less than I would expect in such a luxury cruiser. Avoid wines, such as vintage port, which are likely to have thrown a heavy sediment.
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by Jenise » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Dean, respecting your price limit, some reccos (the wines not reccomended to you are wines that either I don't know or thought "definitely not" about):

040 Moët & Chandon, Brut Imperial, Epernay45.00
044 Perrier-Jouët, Grand Brut, Epernay35.00
083 Domaine Chandon, Brut Cuvee, Napa Valley28.00
002 Krug, Grand Cuvée, Reims NV150.00
070 Codorniu Cuvee Raventos, Spain24.00

124 Bründlmayer , Riesling, Kamptaler Terrassen 200246.00

220 Josephshöfer, Riesling Kabinett, von Kesselstatt, Mosel 200232.00

236 Orvieto Classico ”Campogrande”, Antinori, Umbria 200220.00

306 Chateau Montelena Chardonnay, Napa Valley 200142.00

388 Tavel, Paul Jaboulet 200232.00
384 Marsannay, Bruno Clair, Burgundy 199826.00

450 Blaufränkisch, Walter Glatzer, Carnuntum 200234.00

642 Cairanne, Domaine Catherine le Goeuil 200132.00

654 Gigondas, E. Guigal 200038.00

718 Spy Valley, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 200138.00

762 Tinto Pesquera, Bodegas A. Fernandez, Duero 200142.00

806 Chateau Montelena , Cabernet Sauvignon 200042.00

106 Cape Mentelle Chardonnay, Margaret River 200238.00

114 Mitchelton Marsanne, Goulburn Valley, Victoria 200422.00

122 Nigl Grüner Veltliner, Kremser Freiheit,Kremstal 200336.00

140 Trimbach Gewurztraminer 200230.00

142 Schlumberger Pinot Blanc “Les Prince Abbés” 200324.00

144 Hugel Pinot Gris 200134.00

148 Trimbach Riesling “Cuveé Frédéric Émile” 200058.00 (Great price for a Freddie, which is EXCEPTIONAL wine, even though it's above your price point)

152 Château Olivier, Pessac-Léognan 200148.00

196 Sancerre, Pascal Jolivet 200434.00
198 Vouvray Sec, Marc Brédif 200228.00

212 Erbacher Marcobrunn, Riesling Kabinett,
Schloss Schönborn, Rheingau 200236.00
214 Oppenheimer Sackträger, Riesling Spätlese Trocken,
Güntrum, Rheinhessen 200230.00
218 Niersteiner, Gutes Domtal, Rheinhessen 200422.00
222 Piesporter, Goldtröpfchen, Mosel 200326.00

244 Sauvignon Blanc, Serena, Castello Banfi 200332.00
246 Soave Classico, Pieropan, Veneto 200422.00
256 Cloudy Bay, Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough 200440.00
274 Vergelegen Sauvignon Blanc, Stellenbosch 200424.00
282 Albariño, Pazo de Barrantes, Rias Baixas 200334.00
284 Sequoia Grove, Carneros 200238.00
310 Ferrari-Carano, Alexander Valley 200238.00
312 Geyser Peak, Russian River 200128.00
330 Sanford, Santa Barbara 200130.00
334 Sonoma-Cutrer, Russian River Ranches 200336.00

S........ B....

346 Matanzas Creek, Sonoma 200136.00
348 Groth, Napa Valley 200432.00

352 Swanson Pinot Grigio, Napa Valley 200334.00

OREGON

362 King Estate Pinot Gris Reserve, Willamette Valley 200234.00

WASHINGTON STATE

368 Eroica Riesling, Dr. Loosen/Chateau Ste Michelle,
Columbia Valley 200432.00

386 Sancerre, Pascal Jolivet 200434.00

C....... S........

406 Cape Mentelle, Margaret River 199948.00

B.... ... V........

C.... .

462 Casa Lapostolle Merlot “Cuvée Alexandre”, Rapel Valley 200338.00

BORDEAUX

470 Château Bouscaut 199848.00

488 Château Coufran 199938.00

M......

538 Château La Croix, Lalande 200138.00

Burgundy....

584 Mercurey, Faiveley, Côtes Chalonnaise 200134.00

C....-D.-N....

624 Moulin-á-Vent, Château de Jacques 200232.00

R.... V.....

644 Châteauneuf-du-Pape, Château de Mont-Redon 200142.00

TUSCANY

680 Chianti Classico “Peppoli”, Villa Antinori 200328.00
682 Chianti Classico Riserva, “Tenute Marchese”, Antinori 199945.00
698 Vino Nobile de Montepulciano, Avignonese 200138.00

OTHER REGIONS

716 Villa Maria Merlot-Cabernet, Auckland 200238.00

P....... .

730 Periquita, J. M. Fonseca, Azeitao 199926.00

752 Alvario Palacios “Les Terrasses”, Priorat 200242.00

CALIFORNIA

856 Chateau St. Jean, Sonoma 200144.00

860 Ferrari-Carano, Sonoma 200236.00

864 Schug, Heritage Reserve, Sonoma 199944.00

P.... N...

866 Byron, Santa Maria 200238.00

870 “J” Wine Company, Russian River 200342.00

Z........

882 Frog’s Leap, Napa Valley 200238.00

908 Seghesio, Sonoma 200328.00

D...... W...

910 Bonny Doon “Vin de Glacière”, Muscat, California 2000 (375ml)26.00

916 Gewurztraminer, Vendange Tardive, Trimbach, Alsace 1999 (375ml)38.00
918 Nivole, Moscato d’Asti, Michele Chiarlo, Italy 2002 (375ml)20.00
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Re: Here's the list in (messy) text format

by Paul Winalski » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:37 am

US$ 150 for Krug Grand Cuvee is more than fair for a restaurant price. Go for it!

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