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WTN: Some New Zins...(long/boring)

by TomHill » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:28 pm

We tried last week (1/3/07) Mostly New Zins:
1. DryCreekVnyd Heritage Zin SonomaCnty (16% PS; 13.5%; http://www.DryCreekVineyard.com) 2004: Very
dark color; bright Zinberry/spicy perfumed/aromatic light Am.oak lovely nose; tart bright
very spicy/raspberry/Zinberry pure/varietal balanced light buttery/Am.oak flavor; long
slight buttery/vanilla/Am.oak very spicy/Zinberry/raspberry balanced/pure finish w/ light
tannins; a lovely pure Zin for great drinking; this is what Zinfandel should be. $15.00
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2. Novy Zin PaperaRanch/RussianRvrVlly (14.6%) 2004: Med.color; strong toasty/roasted/smokey/
pungent some peppery/blackberry/Zin/spicy complex nose; tart rich very smokey/pungent/
toasty/roasted/almost Rhonish very spicy/blackberry/Zin bit dusty/earthy flavor; quite long
pungent/roasted/toasty rather peppery/blackberry/Zin finish w/ light tannins; needs a yr
or two or three; very Rhonish in character. $25.50
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3. Gustave Niebaum Captian'sReserve Zin (13.9%) 2003: Dark color; rather pungent/toasty/oaked
slight earthy/blackberry/plummy/Zin simple/dull nose; soft rather hard/tannic quite toasty/
oak slight plummy/blackberry/earthy flavor; med.short hard/tannic earthy low fruit finish;
a rather coarse/clunky/rough/dull Zin slammed w/ toasty oak. $28.00
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4. WildHogVnyd SonomaCoast Zin (EB; 15%) 2003: Med.light color; very strong perfumed/cranberry/
blackberry/Zin very peppery/spicy bit alcoholic rather dusty/old vines nose; tart/acid bit
alcoholic very spicy/peppery/perfumed cranberry/blackberry/Zin black peppery flavor; long
tart/acid very spicy/cranberry/blackberry cracked black pepper finish w/ some tannins;
needs several yrs; lots of very interesting aromatics; surprisingly intense given the
light color; almost a searing acidity that many did not care for. $22.00
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5. Ridge Calif Zin Carmichael (6% Carignane, 4% PS; 14.8%; 42 brls; Drk: 11/05-11/08-11/09)
2004: Med.dark color; attractive spicy/blackberry/Zin bit oaked/Draper-perfumed pleasant
nose; soft attractive/pleasant spicy/raspberry/blackberry/Zin slight dusty light oaked
flavor; med. attractive bright/raspberry/blackberry/spicy light oak/pungent finish w/ light
tannins; a pleasant/attractive drinkable Ridge Zin, but just that. $24.00
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6. Ridge Calif Zin Nervo (6% PS; 15.1%; 41 brls; Bttld: Dec'04; Drk: 9/04-9/09) 2003: Dark
color; deeper more dusty/old vines more intense/blackberry/raspberry/Zin bit riper some
smokey/pungent/oak/Draper-perfume bit complex nose; tart rich/ripe blackberry/Zin/spicy
bit dusty/old vines light oaked/perfumed attractive flavor; long strong/blackberry/Zin
spicy bit dusty some oaked/perfumed/Draper-perfume finish w/ light tannins; seems to have
put on some weight from at its release; an attractive/drinkable ripe Zin. $24.00
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7. eno LittleMissDangerous Zin TeldeschiVnyd/DryCreekVlly (14.9%; 60 cs) 2001: Med.light
color; some tobaccoy/cedary/aged Zin some dusty/old vines light cranberry/Zinberry bit
complex nose; soft aged/cedary/tobaccoy slight licorice/pungent light cranberry/Zin bit
lean flavor; med.short aged/cedary/tobaccoy slight cranberry/Zin bit dusty/dried out
finish w/ light tannins and some complexity; lots of aged Zin character and seems old
afore its time. $18.00
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8. eno the Patriarch Zin OldVine TeldeschiVnyd/DryCreekVlly (16.3%) 2004: Dark color; rather
pungent/toasty/Burgundian/oak some dusty/blackberry/Zin bit complex nose; ripe/blackberry/
spicy/Zin bit alcoholic/hot ripe/blackberry/Zin/spicy rather toasty/smokey/pungent/oak
bit dusty flavor; med.long rather alcoholic/hot ripe/blackberry/spicy/Zin fairly toasty/
charred/oak finish w/ light tannins; needs a yr or two; interesting oaked Zin but a bit
on the alcoholic side. $25.00
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9. eno SmallTownHero Zin DaMasVnyd/Fiddletown (14.4%; 60 cs; http://www.enoWines.com) 2001: Med.light
color; rather cedary/tobaccoy/old Zin some toasty/oak some perfumed/black cherry/Zin almost
Pinotish bit complex nose; tart some dusty/unclean/bretty/earthy rather cedary/tobaccoy/
old Zin light black cherry/blackberry/dusty some tannic/dried-out flavor; med. rather tannic/
hard slight black cherry/black berry toasty/oak some bitter/tannic/dried out rather cedary/
tobaccoy/old Zin finish; bit more interesting than LittleMiss, but also moving along
pretty rapidly. $14.00
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10. Carlisle SonomaVlly Zin RossiRanch (15.9%; 330 cs; Vines planted in 1910;
9% AlicanteBouschet) 2004: Black color; strong blackberry/Zin/boysenberry some dusty/old vine
light toasty/oak nose; tart/acid very rich/blackberry/Zin/boysenberry dusty/old vine slight
toasty/charred/oak big/tannic flavor; long tart/acid big/blackberry/spicy/Zin rather dusty/
old vine light toasty/charred/oak rather tannic finish; seems rather tight and hard and
needs a bit to really show its stuff; great structure and acid and should age very well.
$35.50
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11. Carlisle RussianRvrVlly Zin Carlo'sRanch (Papera) (15.8%; 225 cs; Vines planted in 1934)
2004: Black color; intense blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/peppery/very spicy quite perfumed/
floral dusty/old vines some toasty/smokey/oak nose; tart intense blackberry/boysenberry/
spicy/blueberry extracted/huge very spicy/bit floral some toasty/charred/oak flavor; very
long bit hard/tannic huge/blackberry/boysenberry quite spicy/floral/violets finish w/
ample tannins; needs 2-8 yrs; big/huge/extracted but definitely over-the-top Zin. $35.50
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12. Carlisle RussianRvrVlly CarlisleVnyd (Peletti) (15.9%; 0.8 tons/acre; Vines planted in
1927: +PS/AlicanteBouschet/GrandNoir; 400 cs) 2004: Very dark/black color; beautiful/
perfumed/fragrant intense blackberry/boysenberry/Zin slight toasty/charred/oak/pencilly
dusty/old vine very aromatic some complex nose; softer bit alcoholic huge/intense Zin/
blackberry/boysenberry perfumed/floral some tannic/hard slight toasty/oak/pencil complex
flavor; very long/lingering floral/perfumed intense/extracted/blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/
licorice very spicy some charred/oak finish; my favorite of the three because of the
aromatics; a killer Zin that'll only get better. $35.50
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13. Ridge Calif Zin StoneRanch (12% Carignane; SonomaCnty; 13.6%; 45 brls;
Drk: 11/05-11/10-11/11) 2004: Dark color; strong smokey/Draper-perfume/pungent rather
dusty/Geyserville-like strong blackberry/Zin very Ridge/Zin some complex nose; soft slight
unclean/bretty rather blackberry/floral/spicy/dusty some pungent/Draper-perfume complex
flavor; med.long floral/violets/blackberry/Zin/dusty slight bretty fairly perfumed/pungent/
oak finish w/ some tannins; needs several yrs; much like a Geyserville in profile and
complexity. $28.00
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14. Ridge Calif Zin LyttonEast (18% PS, 6% Carignane; DryCreekVlly; 15.1%; 54 brls; Drk:
1/05-1/10-1/15) 2003: Very dark color; very intense blackberry/boysenberry/Zin very spicy
huge fruit rather dusty/old vines slight toasty/vanilla/oak nose; big/ripe/extracted huge/
blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/very spicy some toasty/pungent/oak dusty/old vine balanced/
ripe/mouthfilling flavor; very long huge/blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/spicy slight taosty/oak
finish w/ ample tannins; needs 2-6 yrs; big huge fruit Zin and less of Ridge winemaking;
much like the Ridge Zins of the early '70's; a killer Zin at a great price. $28.00
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15. SeaRidge Zin (13.5%) 1991: Very dark color w/ slight browning; loads of sediment; intense
ripe/blackberry/boysenberry/licorice bit overripe/jammy quite pencilly/smokey/oak/charred
rather complex nose; very tart/acid/screechy ripe/overripe boysenberry/blackberry/licorice/
chocolaty very pencilly/smokey/oak fairly tannic flavor; long quite pencilly/smokey/oak/
charred/burnt high/screechy/acid strong blackberry/boysenberry/licorice fairly tannic
finish; needs age and not smoothing out much; may never come together. My mystery wine.
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And today's BloodyPulpit:
1. DryCreekZin: Whatta steal this wine is (alas...all sold out at the winery). This is
exactly the kind of bright/spicy Zin that first drew me to the varietal yrs ago. This is
the first DCV Zin made entirely by Bill Knuttle, I believe. Worth tracking down.
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2. Novy Papera: A very interesting Zin, better than any ever made by DeLoach from these grapes.
Although not overtly oaky, it had this lovely roasted/smokey character atop all the spicy
blackberry fruit. This is how Stephane Ogier would make Zin if he could.
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3. WildHogVnyd: Dan Schoenfeld's wnry is one that stays consistently below everyone's radar.
Located out in Cazadero, on the extreme SonomaCoast, I find his wines almost always rather
interesting, sometimes exceptional. I should visit them sometime.
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4. Ridge ATP: This program I continue to find a bit frustrating; I think it could be much more
exciting than it is. It oftentimes seems to be just another part of the Ridge marketing
arm (sorry, Donn) and not an opportunity to share their experiments w/ us and look over
the winemaker's shoulder. At 40-50 barrels a lot, these are hardly small production lots
I think. The wines, particularly the Zins, often seem to speak more of Ridge winemaking
than of terroir. I struggle to find something distinctive about them, the terroir thing,
and I just can't. They're good drinking/tasty classic Ridge Zins at more than fair prices.
But they often don't have the intellectual interest I would like in these wines. The
Carmichael and the Nervo were all too typical. Good/tasty Zins but not all that distinctive
from one another. Maybe my expectations are too high for the ATP program??
And...then....along comes a wine like the LyttonEast; slammed outta the park. This wine
is one of the best Ridge Zins I've had in yrs; a throwback to some of those from the
early '70's. It speaks much less of Ridge winemaking and far/far more of old vine Zin
and terroir. THIS is exactly the kind of wine I'd like to be seeing coming from the ATP!!
And maybe an Amador Zin, and a Mendocino Red, and a Lodi Essence, and an Occidental Late
Harvest, maybe a Barbera....maybe even a White Zin or CoastRange PinotNoir?? One can
always hope.
One of the things I find about these ATP wines is that I'll often try them within a
week or two of arival, sorta shrug my shoulders, and forget about them. Then I'll try
one a yr later (like this '03 Nervo), and find they've put on weight and are much more
interesting and better than I first recall. Frustrating.
That being said...I'm still a big fan of the Ridge ATP. The wines are always good, at
a more than fair price. I ain't about to quit.
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5. eno: These are wines made by Sasha Verhage over in Berkeley, in the original winery that
SteveEdmunds used, I believe. I'd had the '04 PinotNoir a month ago and was pretty
impressed with it. I liked this '04 Zin almost as well, for a straightforward tasty Zin.
But I was rather surprised at how far along the two '01 Zins were. They seemed older than
I would have expected and already in their decline; interesting but no longer sensual.
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6. Carlisle: Not much more I can say about MikeOfficer's Zins that I've not said before. Of
these three Zins, I somewhat preferred the Carlisle/Carlisle. The Rossi seemed a bit tight
and closed and hard, a bit dischordant and needing a year to come together and really
show well. All three had hefty alcohol levels, but none seemed either hot/alcoholic nor
overripe in flavors. There are all three pretty monolithic and similar right now and need
a few yrs to start to sort themselves out and show their differences. Stunning Zins, some
of the best being made in Calif.
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7. SeaRidge Zin: This is a wine that I've taken a lot of grief for over the yrs. It is widely
disliked & soundly vilified, as am I, by many in my group. This was grown on the old SeaRidge
property up in Occidental (now Eric Ross), not far from the VonWeidlich vnyd. I thought
the wine had great potential because of its searingly high acids, fierce tannins, and
loads of very ripe fruit. I still like the stuff and think it may yet come around, but
am very much in the monority. A great prophet is often widely ignored in his own time.
Tom
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Re: WTN: Some New Zins...(long/boring)

by Brian K Miller » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:08 pm

Thanks for the notes!

They were pouring Wild Hog at the Sonoma Wine Company on the northeast corner of the square the other week, and I really enjoyed it. I prefer a lighter, more claret-style Zin, and this one wasn't a sweet fruit bomb at all. Delicious!
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Re: WTN: Some New Zins...(long/boring)

by John Treder » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:40 pm

Dry Creek Heritage Zin is one of the ones I hate to tell people about.
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DCV Heritage...

by TomHill » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:28 am

The previous ones were rather pretty wines, just that. This '04 is a whole notch above the previous ones, though. Bill Smart (DCV Director of Communications....yoikes...I can remember back in the good ol' days when there was owner/winemaker Dave Stare...and that was it!!) thinks the '05, to be released soon, is even better.
And their '04 OldVines, about $24, is one heck of a Zin as well. And the Sommers and Beeson Ranch Zin are not too shabby either.
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Re: DCV Heritage...

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:52 am

TomHill wrote:The previous ones were rather pretty wines, just that. This '04 is a whole notch above the previous ones, though. Bill Smart (DCV Director of Communications....yoikes...I can remember back in the good ol' days when there was owner/winemaker Dave Stare...and that was it!!) thinks the '05, to be released soon, is even better.
And their '04 OldVines, about $24, is one heck of a Zin as well. And the Sommers and Beeson Ranch Zin are not too shabby either.
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Tom. I have heard of Carlisle through lurking on another website, seems to have a huge reputation? Guess all wines are mail-order? Cellartracker has a very big list, close to 600 TNs.
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Carlisle??

by TomHill » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:27 pm

Yup....followed 'em from the very start and even before...when MikeOfficer was a Ho-Made winemaker.
They're making some of the most profound Zins/Syrahs/and PetiteSirahs in Calif. Alas, he was discovered by Arpy a yr or so ago and they're rather hard to find. But that'll change when they go buzzin after the new/hot player in town and the pressure will ease..a bit anyway.
But the Carlisles are worth tracking down.
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