Yoni M wrote:I would also question the propriety of conflating Orthodox Jewish consumption habits with those of Israelis, as is done in the final paragraph of the article.
Greg Piatigorski wrote:I have absolutely no issues with the last paragraph, its actually on point. My generation drank heavily, although less than our fathers, but I am simply stumped to see the amount of alcohol consumed by the next one. We seem like lightweights and trust me, on occasion and when feeling fine I can drink a lot without getting drunk (guess that protective gene does exist). What is more startling is that in decades past I met just a few women who drank heavily, but young women these days drink shot for shot with the guys and don't seem visibly affected (lots of training, it seems). I can assuredly say that my son and his friends drink way more than did I and my friends.
Greg Piatigorski wrote:Ilan, I am talking about "kids" beyond college at this point, mid to late 20s. Not that I do not see college age kids drinking heavily and more than we did in our time. Although I will agree they are not Orthodox by any means.
Yet, that last paragraph you are having an issue with does not speak about Orthodox Jews. But all I can tell you is that in my days of working with some when I lived in Brooklyn (grew up and lived there before I moved to CA), I do recall Orthodox Jews drinking heavily, so again, no news here for me. We're talking downing LARGE shots, similar to what we Russian Jews are accustomed to.
Seriously, I see nothing in the article that I cannot agree with. You and I simply interact with different groups, that's all. And well, good for you.
Greg Piatigorski wrote:Ilan, I do not visit college campuses nor do I intend to. My own experiences are based on HOME observed behavior and all I can is that the article is right on. You and I must travel in different circles.
Gamliel K wrote:There is an short article in Newsweek suggesting that Jews, particularly Orthodox Jews, are developing alchohol abuse problems. Gamliel
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