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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Bill Spohn » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:17 pm

I've been very, very good for awhile now, but someone just sent me a mailer on the 2005 Vieux Lazaret Cuvee Exceptionelle. I have a soft spot for CNduP (my wife says it is located in my head).

Someone tell me this is crappy wine that I don't really need.....
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by JC (NC) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:21 pm

I slipped. I just ordered four bottles from Calvert and Woodley in DC to be picked up Saturday morning. Two I want to consume myself (Gary Farrell Pinot Noir) and two from Australia are for the wine tasting as a church fundraiser.
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by Clinton Macsherry » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:54 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:As for the Burgs - the really good 2005s have cleared the market, 2006 is no great shakes & pretty much what is left is what everyone already passed on.


Dang, and I just bought four Patrick Javillier 2005s, two Savigny-les-Beaune "Grand Liard" and two Pernand-Vergelesses (with coupons, about $24 per).

Oh wait, what am I doing in this thread? I don't have a ...
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by Jeff_Dudley » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:57 am

I went off probation today with SP (spousal permission) to get current releases of some absolute favorites. It took two hours at the Wine Exchange to choose an entire case of single bottles and then put them all back, then go back instead for:

2 btl - Pfeffingen 2007 Scheurebe Spatlese Ungsteiner Herrenberg
2 btl - R Haart 2007 Riesling Kabinett Piesporter Goldtropchen
2 btl - Gallet 2005 Cote Rotie

What a rush that was, and I don't mean the two hour drive each way. Now, feeling strangely satisfied and even guilt-ridden. And I'm not even Catholic.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:59 am

SP is the one absolute rule for breaking WP.
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by Jeff_Dudley » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:08 pm

Yup ! :D
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Sam Platt » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:47 am

We bought a Marcel Deiss Pinot Blanc and an ESJ "Bone Jolly" red this weekend. However, they were both priced very competitively, so that's technically not a violation.
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by David M. Bueker » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:19 am

I slipped this week as well.

We need to be strong. I should have posted before clicking. :(
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Salil » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:51 am

I'm proud. Managed to walk into Crush Wines a couple of days ago with a friend who wanted to buy a bunch of wines - only picked up a much older order of mine for 3 bottles, and managed to walk out without actually buying anything - despite walking right by a stack of 07 Geil Scheurebe and 06 Loewen Spatlese (and a few stacks of Schaefer and Donnhoff). Now need to stay strong...
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Charles Weiss » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:47 pm

Sam Platt wrote:We bought a Marcel Deiss Pinot Blanc and an ESJ "Bone Jolly" red this weekend. However, they were both priced very competitively, so that's technically not a violation.


This is my weakness too Sam, and I'm afraid it IS a violation. To look for good deals in e-mails about wine, to cruise close-out bins, etc. is like an alcoholic going into bars and saying that having a drink doesn't count because someone asked me if I wanted one!

I know if I "happened to see" the ESJ Bone Jolly for an extra 5% off it would go home with me.
Today it was a bottle of '98 Trimbach CFE VT, and not even all that great a bargain.

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by David Creighton » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:33 pm

sam! think about this. a 'nice' bottle for how much? and from 2000? not a stellar vintage there. its a village wine? take a pill man.
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by David M. Bueker » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:08 pm

David Creighton wrote:sam! think about this. a 'nice' bottle for how much? and from 2000? not a stellar vintage there. its a village wine? take a pill man.


David - what are you talking about?
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Sam Platt » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:35 pm

Charles Weiss wrote:This is my weakness too Sam, and I'm afraid it IS a violation. To look for good deals in e-mails about wine, to cruise close-out bins, etc. is like an alcoholic going into bars and saying that having a drink doesn't count because someone asked me if I wanted one!

Well Charles, that's not exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'm in desperate need of an enabler! Surely there are some loopholes? A technicality, or two? If not good pricing then what??? I need a medically safe detox! :)
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by David M. Bueker » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:57 pm

Sam Platt wrote:Well Charles, that's not exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'm in desperate need of an enabler! Surely there are some loopholes? A technicality, or two? If not good pricing then what??? I need a medically safe detox! :)


Rationalization - a sure sign of a problem. :wink:
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by David Creighton » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:35 pm

the last post on the first page - sorry, just joined this.
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by Jenise » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:44 pm

I broke probation too. :cry:

Just returned from a week with five couples in the Eldorado Foothills environs with a case and a half of wine purchased during three days of wine tasting. But comparatively speaking, I was very very good: everybody else bought about four cases.
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by James Dietz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:51 pm

Jenise wrote:I broke probation too. :cry:

Just returned from a week with five couples in the Eldorado Foothills environs with a case and a half of wine purchased during three days of wine tasting. But comparatively speaking, I was very very good: everybody else bought about four cases.


Ok.. WHAT did you buy... inquiring minds want to know...
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by David M. Bueker » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:54 pm

Hey Jenise - I have some computer parts for you. But I have no box. :wink:
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by Redwinger » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:59 pm

Sam Platt wrote:
Charles Weiss wrote:This is my weakness too Sam, and I'm afraid it IS a violation. To look for good deals in e-mails about wine, to cruise close-out bins, etc. is like an alcoholic going into bars and saying that having a drink doesn't count because someone asked me if I wanted one!

Well Charles, that's not exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'm in desperate need of an enabler! Surely there are some loopholes? A technicality, or two? If not good pricing then what??? I need a medically safe detox! :)


Sam,
I'm available as your disabler, err, enabler!! I think there is a loophole for 2006 ESJ Bone Jolly Gamay (Red) for $12.98 before discount. Hell, you'd be a damn fool if you didn't buy it. Well, you may actually be a fool if you only bought one bottle. Hell, it even has a screwcap so Mr. Bueker can buy/drink it.
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by Jenise » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:40 pm

James Dietz wrote:
Jenise wrote:I broke probation too. :cry:

Just returned from a week with five couples in the Eldorado Foothills environs with a case and a half of wine purchased during three days of wine tasting. But comparatively speaking, I was very very good: everybody else bought about four cases.


Ok.. WHAT did you buy... inquiring minds want to know...


Basically, I only purchased from four wineries: Miraflores, Boeger, Cedarville and Sobon. All four were strong across their entire line with good structure, acidity, varietal character, relatively modest alcohols (for the area) and an absence of jammy, overripe fruit. I didn't stop at Karly or Scott Harvey, but I liked bottles purchased and tasted while there.
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David M. Bueker wrote:Hey Jenise - I have some computer parts for you. But I have no box. :wink:


Now that's it's cool enough to ship and we're both stateside, that box will be on its way to you very soon!
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by James Dietz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:45 pm

Jenise wrote:Basically, I only purchased from four wineries: Miraflores, Boeger, Cedarville and Sobon. All four were strong across their entire line with good structure, acidity, varietal character, relatively modest alcohols (for the area) and an absence of jammy, overripe fruit. I didn't stop at Karly or Scott Harvey, but I liked bottles purchased and tasted while there.


I need to get up there sometime.. I buy about a case from Cedarville each year, and they seem to be great people too.
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by Jenise » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:08 pm

James Dietz wrote:
Jenise wrote:Basically, I only purchased from four wineries: Miraflores, Boeger, Cedarville and Sobon. All four were strong across their entire line with good structure, acidity, varietal character, relatively modest alcohols (for the area) and an absence of jammy, overripe fruit. I didn't stop at Karly or Scott Harvey, but I liked bottles purchased and tasted while there.


I need to get up there sometime.. I buy about a case from Cedarville each year, and they seem to be great people too.


You should! I brought back his viognier, grenache and cabernet. I liked everything he makes, but these were for me the standouts. The area's quite beautiful and totally uncommercialized. So much so that accomodations are scarce--if you ever get up there, I highly recommend the 7-Up Guest Ranch in Fairplay where we stayed. It's a rustically elegant little B & B consisting of three duplex cabins scattered on a hillside just a mile, if that, down the road from Cedarville.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by James Dietz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:14 pm

Thanx for the recommendation for a place to stay, Jenise. You describe pretty much what I buy from them, except I do get their Zin too. The sryah and petite sirah are both good, but I don't buy much of either varietal from anyone.
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