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Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:43 pm
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Mike Filigenzi (Sacto) wrote:And the winner? It was made with no discernible chili powder, ground beef, shark, and baby octopus. And it was really good.
Robin Garr wrote:Mike Filigenzi (Sacto) wrote:And the winner? It was made with no discernible chili powder, ground beef, shark, and baby octopus. And it was really good.
Italian surf'n'turf! Still, I know one must not be a snob at a social event, but as good as that sounds, it sure doesn't sound like chili to me. <harrumph>
ChefCarey wrote:Oh, and no beans allowed.
Robin Garr wrote:ChefCarey wrote:Oh, and no beans allowed.
Not even in the Midwestern Division!?
ChefCarey wrote:Have only judged in the South. No Midwest Division.
Robin Garr wrote:ChefCarey wrote:Have only judged in the South. No Midwest Division.
What could be more Southern than the Ohio Valley?
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:45 pm
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Jenise wrote:WHAT? If that had read, "New Orleans is not so...as Tallahassee, Florida," I'd have been less surprised. To us Left Coasters, there's nothing southern about Indiana.
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:43 pm
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ChefCarey wrote:
And would not have been allowed in the chili contests I have judged - unless, as sometimes happens, they had an "other" category. Green, red, hot, mild, pork, beef, lamb - just about anything goes except the chili must contain meat. Oh, and no beans allowed.
Jenise wrote:WHAT? If that had read, "New Orleans is not so...as Tallahassee, Florida," I'd have been less surprised. To us Left Coasters, there's nothing southern about Indiana.
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:45 pm
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Mike Filigenzi (Sacto) wrote:ChefCarey wrote:
And would not have been allowed in the chili contests I have judged - unless, as sometimes happens, they had an "other" category. Green, red, hot, mild, pork, beef, lamb - just about anything goes except the chili must contain meat. Oh, and no beans allowed.
It didn't get my first place vote just because I couldn't quite reconcile the ingredients with my personal definition of chili (which is pretty darn loose). But I couldn't begrudge the winner his title, either. The stuff was just too good.
I think this is either the second or third year in a row that Allesandro's won this. The guy really knows how to put together a tasty stew.
Maybe you folks should call this a "stew" contest.I love a good stew.
Mike
ChefCarey wrote:my mother from Evansville.
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:43 pm
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ChefCarey wrote:
Maybe you folks should call this a "stew" contest.I love a good stew.
Robin Garr wrote:ChefCarey wrote:my mother from Evansville.
I knew that, either from you or from our mutual friend. Speaking of similar environs from Jasper east to Madison, we have a saying in Louisville that around here, you have to go North to get South.
ChefCarey wrote:my stepfather was from Louisville?
ChefCarey wrote:Robin Garr wrote:You'll remember it when I tell you they owned a bakery in Louisville, many, many years ago. I think it was called Goldberg's?????
Oh, yeah ... right, I do remember that. Think I got it straight from you, without intermediaries.![]()
Funny thing, though, is that I don't remember the bakery - maybe in our parents' time?
ChefCarey wrote:Yes, likely in our parent's era.
Robin Garr wrote:ChefCarey wrote:Yes, likely in our parent's era.
The odd thing about a "Goldberg's" is that Louisville's bakery community has been traditionally German, with names like Heitzman's, Ehrmann's, Plehn's, Wohlleb's, Ehrler's, etc., plus an Italian family or two (Fanelli's, Impellizzerri's), but despite the city having a fairly good-size Jewish community, I'm not aware of any historic bakeries with a Jewish family name. As recently as the 1970s, we still had to go to Cincinnati for bagels!
ChefCarey wrote:They were very Jewish and very Orthodox. From Russia originally. Oh, and they were there. Several of the brothers ended up in the bakery business - in Evansville, Richmond, Indiana, Toledo and Miami Beach - at Wolfie's. The one who didn't ended up in the scrap metal business.
Robin Garr wrote:ChefCarey wrote:They were very Jewish and very Orthodox. From Russia originally. Oh, and they were there. Several of the brothers ended up in the bakery business - in Evansville, Richmond, Indiana, Toledo and Miami Beach - at Wolfie's. The one who didn't ended up in the scrap metal business.
Oh, I believe you ... was just off on a cultural riff ... for whatever reason, by the '60s, anyway, Louisville had plenty of old German and Italian bakeries that went back to the 1900s, but I'm not aware of any Jewish bakeries at that point. As you said, it must have been earlier.
(I once interviewed the elderly proprietor of the city's first Chinese restaurant, by the way, and she attributed much of its success to a conscious choice of its original location based on its proximity to the neighborhoods where most of the city's Jewish families lived.)
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