Everything about food, from matching food and wine to recipes, techniques and trends.

My latest kitchen toy

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:54 pm

About a month or so ago, I burned up two old hot-air corn poppers. I use them for two very different functions. First, to shrink-wrap the capsules I put on the necks of my wine bottles. Secondly, I had been using them to roast coffee beans. I enjoyed roasting the coffee beans, however, during roasting, a chaff would get thrown out of the corn popper and I would have to place a large cookie sheet next to it to collect the chaff. I mentioned my need for a new corn-popper to the guy who runs the coffee roasting business around the corner from me, so he handed me his original coffee roasting machine, told me to take it home, try it out and if I liked it, I could buy it for $50. It's an i-Roast 2. I love it! and went back 2 days later and gladly gave him the $50. New ones are selling online for between $150-$200. I programmed it to roast greens beans just the way I like it - brown, but just starting to get shiny. I've come to really like Ethiopian beans - they have a mild chocolate character. If this interests anyone, here is a great link about roasting coffee: http://www.sweetmarias.com/roasting-VisualGuideV2.php
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
User avatar
User

Mike Filigenzi

Rank

Known for his fashionable hair

Posts

7089

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:43 pm

Location

Sacramento, CA

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Mike Filigenzi » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Sounds like you got a great deal on that, Howie.

Do you have any issues with the odor of the roasting coffee? I have a friend who roasts his own and he usually does it outdoors as his wife doesn't like the smell.
"People who love to eat are always the best people"

- Julia Child
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:10 pm

If I do a full roast, I place the roaster on the range and turn on the hood fan, as the beans can generate some smoke, but other than that, my son and I both love the smell.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Frank Deis

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

2077

Joined

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:20 pm

Location

NJ

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Frank Deis » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:19 pm

I can't remember how much I've said here about coffee roasting. I bought a popcorn popper specifically so I could roast coffee beans with it. I ran into trouble because it had a thermostat, so that the coffee could never get to a dark enough color, it was always mild. I know you can modify the thermostat but it's a little tricky and a little dangerous afterward. Fortunately I got my neighbors involved and eventually they bought a coffee roaster, one recommended by Sweet Maria.

So the deal is that I buy green beans and they roast them. I only need a batch about once a week because I reserve that for the office, where I make a blend with some good Colombian.

They also roast outside because of the chaff and smoke. I think it smells great. Of course if you get distracted at the wrong moment you can get City++, scorchy black stuff. Even that can taste pretty good. I mostly get central American beans from Sweet Maria. Some day I ought to get my own roaster. But my neighbors are into it whole hog, also have an espresso machine that cost hundreds of dollars...
no avatar
User

Shaji M

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

691

Joined

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:24 pm

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Shaji M » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:10 am

Sweet Maria's green beans, popcorn poppers...Aaaah I used to do that during my college days. I need to do this again some day..
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:11 pm

Frank Deis wrote:...I mostly get central American beans from Sweet Maria...
Yes, I've had beans from Nicaragua, Guatemala and Mexico and like them (I'm sipping a Mexican coffee now). Also, from the Indonesian islands - Flores, in particular are very nice. It's almost like wine, with different flavors depending on where they're grown.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Frank Deis

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

2077

Joined

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:20 pm

Location

NJ

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Frank Deis » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:44 pm

Howie, when I read about people buying expensive roast coffee through the mail, I just have to shake my head.

What we get is certainly as good, especially taking into account that it was always JUST roasted and JUST ground when we make it.

And the price for green beans is ridiculously cheap, and they seem to keep very well in the green state.

Everybody should be doing this!
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

26692

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Jenise » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:19 pm

Frank Deis wrote:What we get is certainly as good, especially taking into account that it was always JUST roasted and JUST ground when we make it....Everybody should be doing this!


I'm so afraid of finding this out. :) Where do you get your green beans?
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Frank Deis

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

2077

Joined

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:20 pm

Location

NJ

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Frank Deis » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:12 pm

Same as Howie, I think. http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php

Very fun reading whether you order or not.
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:15 pm

I buy my beans from a small roaster around the corner from me: http://newdaycoffeeroasters.com/. Russ, the owner, and I have become friends. He's attempting to grow wine grapes in his yard and I gave him some hybrid cuttings after all his Cab Franc died. Yesterday I picked a pound each of Ethiopian and Colombian (green) and Ethiopian and Dark Night blend (roasted). He ships also. I never bought from Sweet Marie's, but their website has lots of good roasting info.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Frank Deis

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

2077

Joined

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:20 pm

Location

NJ

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Frank Deis » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:14 pm

FWIW my latest batch was a little dish-watery. Win some lose some!!
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:24 am

UPDATE: I've pretty much narrowed my coffee down to two types. I buy roasted Ethiopian Natural Sidoma, because it is difficult for me to roast this variety properly myself. The coffee beans are small and throw off a lot of chaff, plugging up the screen in my roaster, thus limiting the air flow and slowing the circulation of the beans - I've had some burn, while others were still light brown, so I use the ones Russ roasts. I love it - med-light roast with a hint of chocolate! However, I did a new program that is great for Colombian - not too much high heat and longer roasting time - dark brown and shiny, but almost no smoke generated. Excellent full bodied coffee, in both the auto drip and the espresso maker.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Brian Gilp

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1457

Joined

Tue May 23, 2006 6:50 pm

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Brian Gilp » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:40 pm

I have no idea how I missed this thread the first time. I have been roasting for years. It's been so long I don't even remember when I started. My first roaster was the original Fresh Roast. It was fun but the batch size was small and the roast too quick. Too hard to control for lighter roasts. Switched to a Gene Cafe and have never looked back. Not sure how long it takes your i-Roast but an 8 ounce batch in my Gene Cafe takes about 15 minutes for City +. Ethiopian (even DP) are not a problem. The chaff collector is very large and far removed from the heat source and does not impact roasting. There are still the quaker beans but that is just Ethiopian but the eveness of the roast is much better than I ever got out of my Fresh Roast.
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:55 pm

The I-Roast has 2 pre-programmed roasts, both of which are too dark for my preferences. I can also create up to 10 programs, for a total of 15 minutes, plus 4 minutes cooling each. I can load it with about 1 cup of green beans per batch, which almost double in size during roasting. The chaff collector/screen is located at the top of the unit, where the hot air discharges. I discussed the problem with the Ethiopian beans with Russ (the local roaster who sold me the unit) and he suggested doing smaller batches. I may try them again, but he does such a nice job with them, that I may just stick with buying his roast Ethiopian.
BTW - The program I made for the Colombian does 6 minutes at 400 Degf, 4 minutes at 375 and 5 minutes at 350.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
User avatar
User

Bill Spohn

Rank

He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'

Posts

5078

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:31 pm

Location

Vancouver BC

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Bill Spohn » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Howie - question on the capsules. Why use the popper for that? I'd have thought that a regular heat gun (like we use in automotive work on electrical shrink wrap) would be faster and would certainly be more durable.
User avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

5953

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: My latest kitchen toy

by Howie Hart » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:09 pm

A heat gun will work fine. I used to have one - then someone borrowed it and I never got it back. I've found that the hot air corn popper works just as well, can be found in second hand stores for about $5 and nobody borrows it. However, right now I have neither, so I'm using a pot of boiling water for now.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 2 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign