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Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by David Raccah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:16 pm

Wine spectator scored a bunch of Israeli wines in the June magazine:

http://kosherwinemusings.com/2012/06/05 ... eli-wines/

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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Gabriel Geller » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:01 pm

Well said Dave, I couldn't agree more with your write up!
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Andrew B » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:58 pm

Good report. WS and other publications will not give generous drinking windows to wines from "newer" or up and coming regions, so the narrower window on the '07 Cave wouldn't surprise me. Furthermore, it still is a 2007, while many comparable red wines have current vintages of 2009 or 2010.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by David Raccah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:54 pm

Like I said Andrew the cave's drink by date was ok, but the yiron is a bit on the early side. the best score to me was the segal chard! 89 points, mevushal, a drink-by date of 2017! and great notes to boot, the drink by and notes were better than the Yarden Chard, which is not mevu!

I was impressed by the fact that Allied got some wine in there along with of course Yarden and Royal. The Dalton Alma (Bordeaux blend) has nice score and notes.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Gabriel Geller » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:02 am

Now I'd like to compare the prices of these wines with other wines of the same types (oaked chard with oaked chard, Bordeaux blend with Bordeaux blend etc) of the same vintage but not kosher and from other regions. E.g. The Alma red '09 got an 88, how big is the difference in price with another '09 Bordeaux blend (from Bordeaux or elsewhere) that got an 88 as well?
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Elie Poltorak » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:33 am

I wish Allied had submitted the Rhone blend Alma--a spectacular wine far superior IMHO to the very good but run-of-the-mill Bordeaux blend. Would be interesting to see how that would rate. As David pointed out, the wines rated are almost all second-tier, which is a pity.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Shawn Johnson » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:31 am

Elie,

I did a search on the spectator's site and saw that the Alma Rhone blend got an 87.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Yehoshua Werth » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:39 pm

A thought on these scores.

As mentioned maybe a distributor in America maybe did not give a wine for tasting. Hmmm

If they go to Israel to do the tastings or bottles are sent over; might be important for the wineries themselves to work on a relationship(With big rating people and magazines) so as they grow in scores flights and entire label spectrum's of the wines can be looked at and scored because of overall interest.

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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Elie Poltorak » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:57 am

Shawn Johnson wrote:Elie,

I did a search on the spectator's site and saw that the Alma Rhone blend got an 87.


Shawn:
I just did the same search and only found the Alma Bordeaux blend. I think the Rhone blend would (certainly should!) score much higher. I would score it a 92.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Shawn Johnson » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:58 am

From the Spectator's site

DALTÔN
Shiraz-Mourvèdre-Viognier Galilee Alam 2009
Score: 87

Ripe, with a nice richness to the zesty dark fruit flavors that are flanked by plenty of spice and hints of smoke. Supple finish.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Elie Poltorak » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:07 pm

Shawn Johnson wrote:From the Spectator's site

DALTÔN
Shiraz-Mourvèdre-Viognier Galilee Alam 2009
Score: 87

Ripe, with a nice richness to the zesty dark fruit flavors that are flanked by plenty of spice and hints of smoke. Supple finish.


OK, I guess you need a subscription to see that. In any event, I think it's underrated. I absolutely love this wine. It's also very accessible. Whenever I serve it to shabbos guests it's a huge hit--with both the sophisticated wine connoisseurs and the occasional kiddush drinkers.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Samuel A » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:40 pm

Shawn Johnson wrote:From the Spectator's site

DALTÔN
Shiraz-Mourvèdre-Viognier Galilee Alam 2009
Score: 87

Ripe, with a nice richness to the zesty dark fruit flavors that are flanked by plenty of spice and hints of smoke. Supple finish.


I didn't taste the richness in this wine. Thought it was mediocre at best.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Elie Poltorak » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:40 am

Samuel A wrote:
Shawn Johnson wrote:From the Spectator's site

DALTÔN
Shiraz-Mourvèdre-Viognier Galilee Alam 2009
Score: 87

Ripe, with a nice richness to the zesty dark fruit flavors that are flanked by plenty of spice and hints of smoke. Supple finish.


I didn't taste the richness in this wine. Thought it was mediocre at best.


You must've had a bad bottle.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by Shawn Johnson » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:11 am

I agree with Elie. It's definitely there.
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Re: Wine Spectator scores a gaggle of Israeli Wines..

by David Raccah » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:46 pm

Well - the beat goes on and Kim Marcus has released some more scores for Israeli wines in the latest Wine Spectator, of which two were not kosher, from Clos du Gat.

also, he scored the 2009 Castel Chardonnay a 90!

http://kosherwinemusings.com/2012/08/17 ... eli-wines/

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