Adam M wrote:2010 Carmel kayoumi white dry Riesling
2004 Hagafen Prix Melange - I was expecting more for this wine given the high rating and price tag.i
It tasted slightly over the hill, which is disappointingly vein that I have had it in my cellar since I purchaed it a few years ago from the winery.
Jonathan K wrote:Adam M wrote:2010 Carmel kayoumi white dry Riesling
2004 Hagafen Prix Melange - I was expecting more for this wine given the high rating and price tag.i
It tasted slightly over the hill, which is disappointingly vein that I have had it in my cellar since I purchaed it a few years ago from the winery.
Oh boy. I have stuck with the Prix Melange 2003 and 2004 since they came out and I have found them to be hard-edged and uninviting. But my experience with really good meritage is that often it is kind of a waste of time to make judgment on them prior to about 10 years from vintage date. I hope that the problem was something other than the wine being over the hill. I keep holding out hope that I will open one of these one day and it will be wonderful, and not a very expensive mistake. I will break one out soon.
Pinchas L wrote:Jonathan K wrote:Adam M wrote:2010 Carmel kayoumi white dry Riesling
2004 Hagafen Prix Melange - I was expecting more for this wine given the high rating and price tag.i
It tasted slightly over the hill, which is disappointingly vein that I have had it in my cellar since I purchaed it a few years ago from the winery.
Oh boy. I have stuck with the Prix Melange 2003 and 2004 since they came out and I have found them to be hard-edged and uninviting. But my experience with really good meritage is that often it is kind of a waste of time to make judgment on them prior to about 10 years from vintage date. I hope that the problem was something other than the wine being over the hill. I keep holding out hope that I will open one of these one day and it will be wonderful, and not a very expensive mistake. I will break one out soon.
Hi Jonathan,
If it is reassuring, I'll add that I have several bottles of the '04 and a case of the '05. I still intend on sticking by my original plans to drink them once they have more than 10 years of bottle age. I also have plenty of the Prix late Harvest Chardonnay '06 that Yossi has panned. Seemingly different people trust different producers. When I speak poorly of some of Yarden's wines, others come to their defense, arguing that they should be held for ten years before drinking. Those very same people don't give Ernie's wines the same respect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about it, just making a statement about the varying degree of comfort that people have regarding different producers.
I've had several of Ernie's regular Cabernet Sauvignon bottlings of late, from '03 and '04 and they are still in their prime. I cannot fathom that his Melange will not show at least as well. Although the Melange was tasty upon release, it was meant for the long haul, and a bottle I had about two years ago, did not show its special qualities, but while I might describe it as closed, I would not call it over-the-hill.
Best,
-> Pinchas
Stacey B wrote:Friday night- Recanati Petit Syrah Zinfandel 2010 limited edition
Shabbat day Gush etzion Cabernet Franc 2007, Psagot Cab Franc 2010
Jonathan K wrote:Pinchas,
Thanks. The last Melange I opened was a 2003 about a year ago, and while it lacked charm, it did not seem to be approaching over-the-hill. I just figured it wasn't ready.
Interesting, I am not a big dessert wine guy, but I liked the Prix Late Harvest Chardonnay. I opened a bottle for some non-Jewish wine snobs and they liked it quite a bit as well.
Overall, I haven't found the value in the Prix Series though. I liked the Zinfandel quite a bit, but the Pinot Noirs I have found lacking. Again, I am hoping that they need a little more bottle age. The Cabernet Sauvignons have been OK but I again just felt they weren't really ready. In general, I am still waiting to be convinced that these wines are worth the price tag, but I haven't given up.
Kol Tuv,
Jonathan
Stacey B wrote:The Gush 2007 was beautiful, elegant and full and we enjoyed it very much.It is drinking really well at this point.The Psagot holds the promise of a truer Cab Franc though with its herbacious undertones. It is young but I enjoyed it and will try one in several months again.
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Marc G wrote:Oh and I love the 06 Late Harvest Chard. No better kosher dessert wine than that.
Marc G wrote:I have been cellaring and drinking Hagafen since 2002. Hagafen along with Yarden are by far the most reliable wines for cellaring. I even opened a 95 Cab from magnum this Passover which was really wonderful if only for 20 minutes in the glass. The 01's are still exellent and even the 99 has some charm. I had the 04 Prix Melange a few months ago and found it really good. If I remember correctly it was a little tight and had some more yrs left. Maybe the one you had was off somehow. I would expect the Melange along with the PRix cabs to drink well for 12 plus yrs. On a side note I believe the 04 was the first Melange so maybe the 03 you are talking about is the Prix Cab. Oh and I love the 06 Late Harvest Chard. No better kosher dessert wine than that.
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Stacey B wrote:Tuesday night Dalton Oak Aged Petit Syrah 2009
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Z Spigelman wrote:Gabe - one store had 2 bottles of Yarden Pinot Noir 2005 but I was afraid to touch them.
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