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Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
James Roscoe
Chat Prince
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:43 pm
D.C. Metro Area - Maryland
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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James Roscoe wrote:Points may be irrelevant to you and me David, but to the hoi poloi out there they truly matter. Try selling a bottle of wine that you think is great that got 87 points versus an 89 point wine. It doesn't matter who gives the points, just sell the darn wine and let the buyer be happy.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Dale Williams wrote:Does Joe Cz still work there? Very good taster, plenty of integrity.
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Tim York wrote:Jenise, I would like to think that the participants in your neighbourhood tastings are getting more confident in their own judgement as their experience grows and therefore less reliant on a guru's points. Is that naive?
James Roscoe wrote:Points may be irrelevant to you and me David, but to the hoi poloi out there they truly matter. Try selling a bottle of wine that you think is great that got 87 points versus an 89 point wine. It doesn't matter who gives the points, just sell the darn wine and let the buyer be happy.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Tim York wrote:Jenise, I would like to think that the participants in your neighbourhood tastings are getting more confident in their own judgement as their experience grows and therefore less reliant on a guru's points. Is that naive?
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Victorwine wrote:Hi Jenise,
WE knows how to throw a good party! (Toast of the Town NYC)!
I’m in Brian’s camp when it comes to wine “scores”. One shouldn’t focus on a single critic or wine publication. Best critic is yourself. (I believe “calibrating” ones palate to that of another person is very difficult). I would include a wine that scores under 90 (that you see merit in and think the group (that’s a mighty big group though) might enjoy, but instead of including a TN from a “major” wine publication or “famous” wine critic (WE, WS, WA- RP, ST, JR, etc), just write your own TN (signing it with just your initials). (Maybe they would confuse you for JR or just think you are another “famous” wine critic).
Salute
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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John S wrote:Frankly, I think the WE is a solid but second rate source, often with higher scores than the other sources (and that's saying something, as there is grade inflation everywhere now).
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Jenise wrote: And when putting on tastings for 40-50 people like I do, people who aren't geeks, people who have never written a tasting note of their own and never will, this stuff matters. When doing my handouts, I'll put down any score over 90 but avoid mentioning anything lower--sure I bought the wine for the tasting and believe in it's merits, but I know my tasters will be adversely affected by any number under 90. In spite of my efforts to educate, they don't know any better.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Bill Spohn wrote:
You'll never get away from reliance on points by the insecure, but seriously, if you rated things "A Jenise 3 out of 5 stars', I bet they'd go for that.
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