. Ill ditto DavidRacahDavid Raccah wrote:Yossie - come on - if you do not want to score, give thumbs up and thumbs down man!
David
Yossie Horwitz wrote:We also had a bottle of the Flam Classico 2011 which, as I think was mentioned here before, would be a truly fantastic $20 wine but at $30, is a bit overpriced.
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Yossie Horwitz wrote:The great Recanati Mediterranean Reserve Syrah-Viognier was a big hit as well and its my favorite of the three wines in the series
Yossie Horwitz wrote:Not necessarily a better wine for the same price. My point is that the Classico is an entry-level blend, intended for early drinking (albeit a very high quality one). While it may be among the best in that class, $30 for an entry level blend is high.
Pinchas L wrote:Yossie Horwitz wrote:Not necessarily a better wine for the same price. My point is that the Classico is an entry-level blend, intended for early drinking (albeit a very high quality one). While it may be among the best in that class, $30 for an entry level blend is high.
Hi Yossie,
I agree with you that the Classico is intended for early drinking and as an every day wine, one you would hope to be served by the glass at a restaurant. In Israel, it probably is served as such, and the price there is closer to $20. But in general it is hard to find wines from boutique wineries whose price point would be optimal as an every day wine. If wine consumption is to increase amongst the kosher drinking public, they would need wines of this quality at a price that won't get in the way.
Best,
-> Pinchas
Adam M wrote:Pinchas L wrote:Yossie Horwitz wrote:Not necessarily a better wine for the same price. My point is that the Classico is an entry-level blend, intended for early drinking (albeit a very high quality one). While it may be among the best in that class, $30 for an entry level blend is high.
Hi Yossie,
I agree with you that the Classico is intended for early drinking and as an every day wine, one you would hope to be served by the glass at a restaurant. In Israel, it probably is served as such, and the price there is closer to $20. But in general it is hard to find wines from boutique wineries whose price point would be optimal as an every day wine. If wine consumption is to increase amongst the kosher drinking public, they would need wines of this quality at a price that won't get in the way.
Best,
-> Pinchas
Pinchas - completely agree with Yossie - in fact i dont even think there is a discussion to be had - that the Classico is grossly overpriced in the US. $30 for an entry level wine is a tragic sucker-purchase trap for the unwary. I don't think that it matters at all that it comes from a "boutique" winery. The new Alon and Ela from Galil Mountain at about $15 are examples of a gold standard of appropriately priced and solid entry-level wines. GM is the opposite of a boutique winery, but the blend is very unique, and that's what matters to me...
David Raccah wrote:At B+ to at best B+ to A-, this wine is not worth 30 bucks, not worth 25 or 20. I would rather buy many Bordeuax blends than this guy, including Yiron. I understand that Yiron is not as balanced or acidic-ly based as Pinchas may need, and I understand and somewhat agree. But the richness and body that the Yiron has and the shelf life of the Yiron versus the Classico make for a better call - IMHO
David
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Isaac C wrote:I'd be curious to know how long it will last open but since I enjoy it that much I don't think I'll ever get to find out.
Gabriel Geller wrote:Isaac C wrote:I'd be curious to know how long it will last open but since I enjoy it that much I don't think I'll ever get to find out.
Maybe get yourself another bottle for such experimental purposes, I love doing that lately...
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