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WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Dale Williams » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:43 am

A very good week of wine, with none truly expensive. I recently picked up orders from Chambers St, Wine Cellarage, and Grapes, and was happy with results.

With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011 Vissoux/Chermette “Poncie” Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really enjoy this night. B++

Thursday was angel hair pasta with mussels and zucchini, cooking wine was the
2011 Bella Vita Pinot Grigio (Veneto). Clean, crisp, citrusy, what more could you want in $8 PG? B-

But with dinner we actually drank the 2009 Pascal Cotat “Les Monts Damnes“ Sancerre. A bit much for the food, but a very good wine. Ripe almost tropical fruit at first, though it seems more citrusy with time. Balanced acids, good length, very good if not great by Cotat standards. B+

There was a cooking wine the following night too, the 2011 Iche “Les Heretiques” - recipe needed 3 cups, and I didn’t take notes of the remaining 1+ ounce, but it was as usual a satisfyingly real wine.

Dinner was coq au vin, carrot and zucchini saute, & salad w/avocado,. with:
2009 Drouhin “ Clos des Godeaux” Savigny-les-Beaune
Midweight, elegant yet with firm tannin and fruit, black cherry and smoke, classy for a village wine. B++

With sockeye with herbs, quinoa, asparagus:
2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger, flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious. A-

With pork tenderloin roasted with a kind of ratatouille-ish assortment of vegetables:
2012 Les Baux Gourgonnier Rose
Good value, classic Provencal rose flavors, good food wine. B

With toor dal, okra, & salad
2010 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Riesling Kabinett
Clean, fresh, tasty Kabinett but without the excitement of its GG brother (of course, considerably cheaper!). B

With stirfried beef with Sichuan pepper & salt, a combination of asparagus, squash & snowpeas in a soy dressing, and brown rice:
2006 Peybonhomme les Tours (1er Cotes du Blaye)
OK, this isn’t going to be a good ringer in a Pomerol tasting. But very nice for what it is- a rather oldfashioned/classic minor Bordeaux, with plums, tobacco, and cedar. Drinking well. B/B-

With “oven-fried” catfish, quinoa, and leftover dal:
2011 Villalin Quincy
There was a period where I drank a fair amount of Quincy (mostly Mardon,but others too) but I don’t think I’ve had one in a few years.I should! This was quite delightful- Granny Smith and gooseberry, a little freshly mowed grass, good acids, good finish. Lighter than a good Sancerre, but thats what I expect from Quincy. B/B+

With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
2011 Foillard “Cotes du Py” Morgon
Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There’s a bit of tannin, good acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+ (with potential)


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Mark Lipton » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:26 pm

Dale Williams wrote:With grilled shell steaks, sauteed mushrooms, potatoes, & salad, the 2011 Vissoux/Chermette “Poncie” Fleurie. Really showing well, black raspberries and mocha, tangy acids, light supple tannins, this could age but I really enjoy this night. B++


I have really liked the '11 Beaujolais wines that I've tried so far. To me, this is the most compelling vintage in the region in a long time, perhaps since 2002.

With salmon with radish leaf pesto, green beans, brown rice, watercress:
2011 Foillard “Cotes du Py” Morgon
Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There’s a bit of tannin, good acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+ (with potential)


That sounds like a dinner at our house! Good to hear about the Foillard, as I bought some (probably from the same source) recently.

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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Rahsaan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:35 pm

Dale Williams wrote:2008 Clemens Busch Pundericher Marienburg Grosses Gewaches
OK, this could make a GG believer out of me. White pit fruits, ginger, flowers, with an acidic backbone and minerally finish. Very long. Delicious. A-


CB does seem to avoid many of the stereotypical flaws of the GG rieslings and the ones I've had seem very easy to like.
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by David M. Bueker » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:45 pm

Stereotypical flaws?
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Mark Lipton » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:13 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Stereotypical flaws?


Like their retail prices? :twisted:
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Rahsaan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Lack of fruit, screeching acidity, heavy alcohol. (I guess some of CB wines can push the alcohol, but the recent ones I've had have been delightful)
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Rahsaan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Dale Williams wrote:2011 Foillard “Cotes du Py” Morgon
Fresh, silky, all red berries and earth. There’s a bit of tannin, good acids, nice length, this seems a bit tight but very nice wine underneath. B+ (with potential)


Sounds great. I can't remember if I've had any 2011 Beaujolais but I definitely haven't tasted the '11 Foillard. I need to catch up!
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by David M. Bueker » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:48 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Lack of fruit, screeching acidity, heavy alcohol. (I guess some of CB wines can push the alcohol, but the recent ones I've had have been delightful)


Frankly I have not had many GGs with overbearing alcohol.
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Rahsaan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:54 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:
Rahsaan wrote:Lack of fruit, screeching acidity, heavy alcohol. (I guess some of CB wines can push the alcohol, but the recent ones I've had have been delightful)


Frankly I have not had many GGs with overbearing alcohol.


Well truth be told I probably haven't had enough to make blanket statements about the category, but in my sample those that I haven't liked have often been too alcoholic (although from warmer regions than the Mosel).
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Re: WTN: good week of moderately priced wines

by Lars Carlberg » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:03 am

Dale and Rahsaan, I like Clemens Busch's 2008s, especially vom grauen Schiefer and the standard GG. Although Rothenpfad and Falkenlay GGs were impressive, too. My favorite wine of the vintage might be Felsterrasse, though.

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