'So-called' wine expert
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
Isaac Chavel wrote:Hi, Harry, shavu'a tov,
Friday night: 2009 Four Gates Pinot Noir. Wonderful.
Shabbat lunch: 2012 Domaine Netofa Rose. Bad bottle, bad enough to return.
2011 Dalton Rose. Just fine.
A good week to all,
Isaac
'So-called' wine expert
1513
Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
Yehoshua Werth wrote:Isaac Chavel wrote:Hi, Harry, shavu'a tov,
Friday night: 2009 Four Gates Pinot Noir. Wonderful.
Shabbat lunch: 2012 Domaine Netofa Rose. Bad bottle, bad enough to return.
2011 Dalton Rose. Just fine.
A good week to all,
Isaac
They stopped shipping the ROSE' and the bottle I had drank well but the Acid was Gone and Major Sediment for a Rose.. Did you see Must or Lees?
Gabriel Geller wrote:Domaine Netofa, Tinto 2011: Bordeaux red in color with on the nose cherries, minerals, loamy dirt and dry cranberries with heavy notes of smoke and roasted meat, medium-bodied with much of the same on the palate as well as licorice and dried herbs, nice acid but very soft, barely noticeable tannins showing on the moderately long finish. Very earthy and old-world doing a great job at imitating the Douro wines from Portugal, this blend of Tempranillo and Tourigal Nacional is substancially better than it's previous vintage and a lot more interesting than its Yarden 2T counterpart.
GG
These are not sediments but a sign (happens fairly often with roses wines) that the wine's tartaric acid has gone thru crystallization, generally caused by chilling the wine. However these "crystals" aren't supposed to affect the wine's taste/quality whatsoever.
'So-called' wine expert
1513
Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 pm
Jerusalem, Israel
Gabriel Geller wrote:Isaac, what I meant is that the crystals aren't responsible for the bottle being off. BTW, I've not tasted it (yet) but the VD Rosé is said to be excellentso nicely traded!
Steve, at $16 the 2T is a steal. Personally I think it's a pleasant wine but I didn't find it interesting in the sense that while it's supposed to imitate the wines from the Douro region in Portugal, like the Netofa Tinto, as opposed to the Tinto it does not differ much style-wise from other Yarden wines (new world bold, full, lots of very ripe fruit and heavy oak). So your decision to stock up should end up being based upon looking for an inexpensive good wine rather than an inexpensive DIFFERENT wine. IMHO at this price point the Capçanes Peraj Petita does a much better job at that.
Best,
GG
David Raccah wrote:Like I write in my post of the 2010 Tinto from Netofa, I do NOT care for the 2009 2T from Yarden, not my cup of tea. The 2008 2T was nice - but that is gone already. The 2011 Tinto and the 2010 Coalition from Shirah are the two best dry Nacional wines that I have enjoyed - period!
GG thinks that the 2010 Tinto is dead and has had bad experiences with it. I liked it, maybe I was lucky! Either way, not improving - so drink up. The 2009 2T IMHO will not improve and is not great now - but hey that is my 2 cents. Totally agree with GG, use your money on the Petita
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