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Wine flavored popcorn?

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Re: Wine flavored popcorn?

by Mike Filigenzi » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:31 am

Pinot and chocolate?!
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Re: Wine flavored popcorn?

by Jenise » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:49 pm

How odd. The description says "wine soaked", but the Kim Crawford rep merely describes something 'flavored'. I'm wondering if it's just seasoning, like BBQ or Sour Cream and Onion.
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by JuliaB » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:23 pm

I wondered about that, too, Jenise! I hate soggy popcorn, so is it really "wine soaked"?
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by Mike Filigenzi » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:59 am

I'd bet that you're correct, Jenise. It must be some sort of powder that has a vaguely wine-related flavor to it. Heck, if they can make "Cajun Squirrel" flavoring for potato chips, they can make anything.
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by Tom NJ » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:10 am

Maybe they soaked the unpopped kernels...?
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by Jeff Grossman/NYC » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:50 am

The website says it is a "candied popcorn" so the flavor is in the coating:
http://www.populencenyc.com/flavors/sauvignon-blanc-kettle.html
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by Mike Filigenzi » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:59 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:The website says it is a "candied popcorn" so the flavor is in the coating:
http://www.populencenyc.com/flavors/sauvignon-blanc-kettle.html


Ah! The Cracker Jack technique.
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by Bill Spohn » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:48 pm

Gack!

Don't like cheese popcorn (not least because it is usually accomplished with powdered orange 'cheese food'). Don't like anything sweet with popcorn. Only adulterant I can tolerate in popcorn is garlic, and I wouldn't have believed it until I crushed a clove into the melted butter we poured over the popcorn - delightful!
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by Lou Kessler » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Mike Filigenzi wrote:I'd bet that you're correct, Jenise. It must be some sort of powder that has a vaguely wine-related flavor to it. Heck, if they can make "Cajun Squirrel" flavoring for potato chips, they can make anything.

Hey Mike, what the hell does a Cajun squirrel look like? Of course more important what do they taste like? Chicken :wink: :wink:
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by Mike Filigenzi » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:48 pm

Lou Kessler wrote:
Mike Filigenzi wrote:I'd bet that you're correct, Jenise. It must be some sort of powder that has a vaguely wine-related flavor to it. Heck, if they can make "Cajun Squirrel" flavoring for potato chips, they can make anything.

Hey Mike, what the hell does a Cajun squirrel look like? Of course more important what do they taste like? Chicken :wink: :wink:


Well, in a potato chip, they taste a little like barbecue flavor chips. They're made (or at least were made) by Walker's, in England. I'm not sure where they came up with the flavor profile, but I'm glad I wasn't involved in that research!
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Re: Wine flavored popcorn?

by JuliaB » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:49 pm

Mike Filigenzi wrote:
Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:The website says it is a "candied popcorn" so the flavor is in the coating:
http://www.populencenyc.com/flavors/sauvignon-blanc-kettle.html


Ah! The Cracker Jack technique.


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Re: Wine flavored popcorn?

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Bill Spohn wrote:Gack!

Don't like cheese popcorn (not least because it is usually accomplished with powdered orange 'cheese food'). Don't like anything sweet with popcorn. Only adulterant I can tolerate in popcorn is garlic, and I wouldn't have believed it until I crushed a clove into the melted butter we poured over the popcorn - delightful!


I'm a purist tool. Love plain butter, why would I need anything else? (Adding garlic wouldn't offend me, but it wouldn't improve my experience.) But in the past couple years I've become a fan of truffle oil and herbs d'Provence.
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by Jenise » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:05 pm

JuliaB wrote:Thanks, but, no thanks.


Me too!
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by Bill Spohn » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:21 pm

Jenise wrote:
Bill Spohn wrote:Gack!

Don't like cheese popcorn (not least because it is usually accomplished with powdered orange 'cheese food'). Don't like anything sweet with popcorn. Only adulterant I can tolerate in popcorn is garlic, and I wouldn't have believed it until I crushed a clove into the melted butter we poured over the popcorn - delightful!


I'm a purist tool. Love plain butter, why would I need anything else? (Adding garlic wouldn't offend me, but it wouldn't improve my experience.) But in the past couple years I've become a fan of truffle oil and herbs d'Provence.


Yes to the herbs, forgot about them and we do use them. Truffle oil - meh. If you knew what it was you might not be so keen on it. It has zero truffle content. It is (quoting Wiki), thioether (2,4-dithiapentane), in an oil base.

"Thioether is a carbon-sulphur-carbon-sulphur-carbon chain that you get when combining a cabbage-smelling thiol compound with formaldehyde. The thiol compound most commonly used in this chemical reaction can also be found in bad breath and flatulence."

Hmmm......pass!
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Re: Wine flavored popcorn?

by Jenise » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:Yes to the herbs, forgot about them and we do use them. Truffle oil - meh. If you knew what it was you might not be so keen on it. It has zero truffle content. It is (quoting Wiki), thioether (2,4-dithiapentane), in an oil base.


Sure, the marketplace is full of fake truffle oil. But there is such a thing as REAL truffle oil, Bill, and I've got the real thing. It's GOOD.
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by Bill Spohn » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:59 pm

Jenise wrote:
Bill Spohn wrote:Yes to the herbs, forgot about them and we do use them. Truffle oil - meh. If you knew what it was you might not be so keen on it. It has zero truffle content. It is (quoting Wiki), thioether (2,4-dithiapentane), in an oil base.


Sure, the marketplace is full of fake truffle oil. But there is such a thing as REAL truffle oil, Bill, and I've got the real thing. It's GOOD.



Are you sure?

Read a site like this carefully and they don't come out and state that they use synthetic flavouring nor do they say it is real.

http://degredient.com/products

There is only one producer in the US - using Oregon truffles - and the price is about $6 per ounce. http://www.oregontruffleoil.com/
Is that what you use?
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by Jenise » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:01 pm

No, mine came from Italy and has pieces of actual truffle floating in the bottle, that's why I'm sure it's the real thing.
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by Bill Spohn » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:19 pm

Jenise wrote:No, mine came from Italy and has pieces of actual truffle floating in the bottle, that's why I'm sure it's the real thing.


Is that like the rubber worm in the Mezcal bottle.....? :mrgreen:

I'd have assumed you had some of the real stuff. What was the cost - it seems to be around $30 an ounce and sold in small bottles - 2 - 4 oz. for the Italian sort.

This makes an interesting read: http://tablematters.com/2013/02/21/my-t ... uffle-oil/
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by Bill Spohn » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:51 pm

Good NY Times article on truffle oil

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/16/dinin ... d=all&_r=0

To be fair, many people seem to like the artificial oils, and there is nothing wrong with that. My distaste for them stems from the over use of them more than from any basic antipathy to the flavour. As the article above says:

"And Americans, as many were quick to note, like big flavors. “People expect the slap in the face of truffle oil,” said Jonathan Gold, the restaurant critic for LA Weekly. “They have lost their taste for subtlety; they want bigger than life flavors that are amped up with aromatics. That’s American cooking at the moment.” Many chefs are turning to truffle oil as a way to get truffle aromas that, as many chefs put it, “jump off the plate”

Reminds one of popular tastes in American (and Australian) wines, too.
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by Karen/NoCA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:42 pm

Jenise wrote:No, mine came from Italy and has pieces of actual truffle floating in the bottle, that's why I'm sure it's the real thing.

How long does that last Jenise?
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by Mark Lipton » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:01 pm

I'm with you, Bill: I'm so sensitive to truffle oil that I find it quite offputting, though in fairness I'd give Jenise's oil a try before condemning it (disclaimer: I'd probably try anything prepared by Jenise). I also find myself now quite sensitive to herbs, so I also shy away from anything with rosemary, dill or more than a smidgen of oregano in it. Thyme, sage, basil and tarragon are still OK for me.

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by Bill Spohn » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:18 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:(disclaimer: I'd probably try anything prepared by Jenise).
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Me too. I'm skeptical about any truffle oil because the vast majority are fakes and many that aren't are no good anyway (very hard to preserve the truffle taste/smell in oil - it fades quickly apparently). The fact that hers has a piece of alleged truffle floating in it means absolutely zip - many are faked that way, with real bits or fake bits (of something else). I find it is a product to stay away from. If you want truffle, buy a truffle.

Treat claims about truffle oils like you would claims from Ebay sellers from China and you won't go far wrong!
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by Jeff Grossman/NYC » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Just bought some truffle salt. I see truffle crumbs in the jar so there's hope.
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