Save the carignane!

The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

Moderators: Jenise, David M. Bueker, Robin Garr

Save the carignane!

Postby Mike Filigenzi » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:55 pm

Got an e-mail from Three Wine Company today. They're concerned about some upcoming restoration work by the California Dept. of Water Resources that would destroy one of the oldest vineyards in the state. Not sure how many folks really care about California old vine carignane, but Three does make a pretty darn good wine from these grapes. If anyone's interested, there's a website here with a petition asking that they spare the vineyard.

"An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made, in a very narrow field" - Niels Bohr
User avatar
Mike Filigenzi
Known for his fashionable hair
Posts: 7053
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:43 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA

Re: Save the carignane!

Postby David M. Bueker » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:07 pm

Not a big fan of 3, but destroying the old vine heritage in California is very sad news regardless of variety.
There behind the glass lies a real blade of grass. Be careful as you pass. Move along. Move along.
User avatar
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
Posts: 22256
Joined: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: Connecticut

Re: Save the carignane!

Postby Tim York » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:02 pm

There is a renaissance of old vine Carignan in Southern France after a period where the vines were grubbed up to make way for higher yielding or (then) more prestigious varieties like Syrah. Nowadays there are some producers in Languedoc and Roussillon who think that Syrah is an interloper in their region and who maintain that a good dose of Carignan is essential for authenticity. It would be a shame if a plot of old vine Carignane in California were destroyed when the grape's reputation is on the rise.
Tim York
Tim York
Wine guru
Posts: 3910
Joined: Tue May 09, 2006 3:48 pm
Location: near Lisieux, France

Re: Save the carignane!

Postby Brian K Miller » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:27 pm

Carignane is a terrible, terrible grape variety that should be grubbed up and DESTROYED wherever possible!

I am devastated to see that even the French have been impacted by trendy American Elitist Anti Flavor Brigade wine snobs trying to save what, like the dodo bird, should be history!

I responded with vituperation to the Three email, I will tell you that!

Sorry...this was our host's ... request here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=50454#p414295

:mrgreen: :lol: 8)
...(Humans) are unique in our capacity to construct realities at utter odds with reality. Dogs dream and dolphins imagine, but only humans are deluded. –Jacob Bacharach
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
Posts: 7124
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:05 am
Location: Northern California

Re: Save the carignane!

Postby Peter May » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:06 am

One of my current favourites is a Corbières made predominately from old vine Carignan with some Grenache. Lovely wine.

It would be a real shame to lose that old vineyard - those gnarled old bushvines in the photo's look wonderful.
User avatar
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
Posts: 2157
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:24 pm
Location: Snorbens, England

Re: Save the carignane!

Postby Robin Garr » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:37 am

Brian K Miller wrote:Sorry...this was our host's ... request

Well trolled, O good and faithful servant ... :mrgreen:
User avatar
Robin Garr
Forum Janitor
Posts: 17274
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:44 pm
Location: Louisville, KY

Return to The Wine Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 9 guests