Steve Slatcher wrote:I see Julia Harding has a recent article on Cornelissen on Jancis' Purple Pages. It seems as though his wines are a lot more consistent than they used to be.
Definition of low bar.
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Steve Slatcher wrote:I see Julia Harding has a recent article on Cornelissen on Jancis' Purple Pages. It seems as though his wines are a lot more consistent than they used to be.
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Oliver McCrum wrote:I visited Cornelissen briefly when I was on Etna a few weeks ago (maybe you did too?).
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Victorwine wrote:Sicily has a long history (4000 years) of “bulk wine production”.
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Steve Slatcher wrote:I have just finish a run of 5 blog posts about my recent trip to Etna. They all have the tag "etna", and can be reached through this link:
http://www.winenous.co.uk/wp/archives/tag/etna
There are lots of things left unsaid, mainly about the places we stayed and ate. Let me know if you want more details.
Dale Williams wrote:My favorite of the Terre Nere line for reds remains the base level. But I've never tried the pre-Phlyox one.
Steve Kirsch wrote:The 2001 Calabretta Etna Rosso that I drank this week was not a disappointment. It was fully mature but still quite vibrant. (That said, I wouldn't hold this vintage in the cellar much longer.) I've enjoyed several vintages of this wine in the past fews years, thanks to Chambers Street Wines. Only the 2003 (I believe) that I had at a friend's house this past winter was a disappointment--flat and uncharming--but that could have been a result of mishandling, I suppose.
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Jason Hagen wrote:Have you had more than 1 bottle? The first one I had was stunning. The second one was a VA bomb. I returned my third bottle after reading that was the norm. The current price was around $30. Imagine all the rioja or barbaresco I could get at that price and not have to gamble. In the end I just grabbed the 2012 Geyserville.
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Andrew Bair wrote:2. If someone can show me a Carricante with 10-15 years of age on it, and show that it is has evolved significantly for the better, I will become a believer. It's not as much a question of whether they will last, but whether they will actually improve over time.
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Andrew Bair wrote:
2. If someone can show me a Carricante with 10-15 years of age on it, and show that it is has evolved significantly for the better, I will become a believer. It's not as much a question of whether they will last, but whether they will actually improve over time.
Jason Hagen wrote:Steve Kirsch wrote:The 2001 Calabretta Etna Rosso that I drank this week was not a disappointment. It was fully mature but still quite vibrant. (That said, I wouldn't hold this vintage in the cellar much longer.) I've enjoyed several vintages of this wine in the past fews years, thanks to Chambers Street Wines. Only the 2003 (I believe) that I had at a friend's house this past winter was a disappointment--flat and uncharming--but that could have been a result of mishandling, I suppose.
Have you had more than 1 bottle? The first one I had was stunning. The second one was a VA bomb. I returned my third bottle after reading that was the norm. The current price was around $30. Imagine all the rioja or barbaresco I could get at that price and not have to gamble. In the end I just grabbed the 2012 Geyserville.
Jason
Dale Williams wrote:Jason Hagen wrote:Have you had more than 1 bottle? The first one I had was stunning. The second one was a VA bomb. I returned my third bottle after reading that was the norm. The current price was around $30. Imagine all the rioja or barbaresco I could get at that price and not have to gamble. In the end I just grabbed the 2012 Geyserville.
Where did you read that was the norm? I just read through 90 CT notes and saw one reference to VA (and one positive note that referenced a lifted floral note). Several references to brett, which is more in line with my experiences of the 2001. I'm not a huge Calabretta fan- I like the wines, but a little too rustic to swoon over. But no clue where idea that (excessive) VA was the norm comes from.
I liked the 2002 a bit more than the 2001.
Plus these are under $30. What dependable 10 year old Barbaresco are you buying for $25?
Andrew Bair wrote:4. Jason: if you have any sleeper recs for sub-$30 Barbaresco, I'd be grateful if you can tell us, and I don't mean this in a condescending way. The only possibility that I can think of is the regular Produttori Barbaresco, which some markets sell in the high $20s. It's still a great value in the low to mid $30s, especially in years when there are no Riservas (can't wait to try the 2010).
Steve Kirsch wrote:Jason, I've probably had six or more bottles, from the 2000-2001-2002 vintages, plus the one 2003 that I mentioned above. All but the 2003 were sound.
Oliver McCrum wrote:Andrew Bair wrote:
2. If someone can show me a Carricante with 10-15 years of age on it, and show that it is has evolved significantly for the better, I will become a believer. It's not as much a question of whether they will last, but whether they will actually improve over time.
In my experience Pietramarina certainly ages for ten years, and I'm told by people whose taste I agree with that it goes longer than that. Whether you can find older bottles in your market is another question. By 'ages' I mean 'improves in the bottle.'
Kerin O'Keefe just wrote a good piece about ageable Italian whites, and Pietramarina was one of the few examples.
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