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Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Sat May 23, 2020 9:45 am

Rumblings, part 19A

Meg Maker of Terroir Review did a short film (a few minutes) on Vermont craft cider. It’s a wonderful piece, that looks like it could have been done by the Somm folks. Very high production value, and an even more interesting story. I had to buy some Vermont cider after I watched it. See it here: https://terroirreview.com/2020/05/08/ve ... t-in-time/

The Zoom tastings continue, with another Champagne event today. This time it’s grower-producer Margaine. Looking forward to hearing about a new generation taking over an already excellent producer.

Did some digging in the cellar to unearth a box of 2001-2008 Selbach-Oster wines. June is going to be a fun month. There’s some real gems in the box that deserve their time to be appreciated.

I really want a fantastic bottle of Burgundy, but I am not making anything that is appropriate for it. Chickpea Masala is not exactly Echezeaux fare.

The orioles are eating more oranges than I am. That said, it’s nice to have them around. :)

Out in the real world the trees and vines are flowering. Fruit is coming. Nature continues its cycle.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Robin Garr » Sat May 23, 2020 10:18 am

Nice. :D And yes, spring sprung despite the world's troubles. After an early start, we had a glum period of clouds and cool drizzle. But summer is finally here. And our town reopened restaurants last night, with proper social distancing of course. I'm not in any hurry.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Pat G » Sat May 23, 2020 2:54 pm

Meg Maker does some good work; always enjoy it. Meanwhile, in CA some re-opening is beginning. At this point it seems to be Stage 2 of 4. Stage 2 in progress. Beaches, parks, retail stores, restaurants, others. Stores and restaurants have capacity limitations, masks, soc distancing, etc.

I've read in the mainstream media that many restaurants need 80% capacity to break even. My reading it does not make it true, but I wonder how many will do so and when. Given filing a safety plan and probably capacity limits well below 80%.

We will stick with essential stuff and takeout for now. That's good enough.

Given that it's Memorial Day Weekend and forecast to be warm, I think beaches will be crowded. Prior to now, parking was very restricted. And even now, no sunbathing or sitting. Swimming, surfing, staying active basically allowed. Don't get comfortable, though. We will, of course, avoid and just watch the reports of the crowding.

Stay safe out there.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Sun May 24, 2020 2:58 pm

Pat G wrote:Meg Maker does some good work; always enjoy it. Meanwhile, in CA some re-opening is beginning. At this point it seems to be Stage 2 of 4. Stage 2 in progress. Beaches, parks, retail stores, restaurants, others. Stores and restaurants have capacity limitations, masks, soc distancing, etc.


There seems to be some grumbling/arguing/uncertainty about what is or is not allowed in regards to winery tasting rooms. The Santa Barbara rules sound downright confusing.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Pat G » Mon May 25, 2020 12:49 am

Mainstream media, but here it is. Agree it's confusing ...and wonder how many wineries that can reopen will do so quickly vs. taking a wait and see. Think it was on Berserkers that tasting rooms in other states where it's allowed are not doing so just yet.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/wine/articl ... 287337.php

In any event, we're not going this year. All travel on hold for foreseeable future.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by ChaimShraga » Mon May 25, 2020 11:07 am

I love Margaine!
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by Jenise » Mon May 25, 2020 11:26 am

Pat G wrote:Mainstream media, but here it is.


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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Mon May 25, 2020 11:44 am

Pat G wrote:Mainstream media, but here it is. Agree it's confusing ...and wonder how many wineries that can reopen will do so quickly vs. taking a wait and see. Think it was on Berserkers that tasting rooms in other states where it's allowed are not doing so just yet.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/wine/articl ... 287337.php

In any event, we're not going this year. All travel on hold for foreseeable future.


If it was not for mainstream media we would not know what was actually going on...anywhere.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Robin Garr » Mon May 25, 2020 12:28 pm

Not jumping on Pat but getting in on the digression, I was a mainstream news media guy for at least 20 years before I went off to save the world in the nonprofit sector. :mrgreen: We took the work of covering the news accurately and fairly as a public service very seriously. I never wrote a lie and was never asked to lie by my editors or publisher. I'm proud to be part of the MSM and did my best to do it right.

End of speech! Back to wine!
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Mon May 25, 2020 12:34 pm

Brief added rumble. I spent an hour digging in the cellar today. I unearthed a number of older wines that will grace the table over the next few weeks. I did not do the full archeological dig, so did not unearth everything I wanted to (sorry, no 2002 LLC Jenise), but there are some really nice bottles with age that are coming up soon.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Jenise » Mon May 25, 2020 3:51 pm

And Robin, IIRC, you won a Pulitzer for your work!

David, remind me what the of our Focus theme for next month is? Cellar Treasures? Open that bottle month?
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

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My apologies to anyone that I offended with my comment on mainstream media. Oops?
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by David M. Bueker » Tue May 26, 2020 6:50 am

Jenise wrote:And Robin, IIRC, you won a Pulitzer for your work!

David, remind me what the of our Focus theme for next month is? Cellar Treasures? Open that bottle month?


“Open that Bottle Month”

We’re in a pandemic. Might as well open the good stuff.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Robin Garr » Tue May 26, 2020 7:26 am

Pat G wrote:My apologies to anyone that I offended with my comment on mainstream media. Oops?

No worries, Pat! Here's to ya. <clink>
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Dale Williams » Tue May 26, 2020 11:04 am

well if David can dig out Selbach-Osters, maybe I should too!
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Jenise » Tue May 26, 2020 12:08 pm

Can't wait! I'm in the mood for the good stuff!
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by David M. Bueker » Tue May 26, 2020 1:38 pm

Dale Williams wrote:well if David can dig out Selbach-Osters, maybe I should too!
thanks for rumblings


Also Lafarge (which I got from you), Raveneau, and a few other trinkets.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Pat G » Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 pm

As a frugal soul, I have just a few possibilities to finish out the month.

Chalone Estate, Grenache, Chalone, 2012
Quinta da Pedra Alta, Red Blend, 2010, Douro, (Touriga Nacional dominant)
Patricia Green Pinot Noir, Chehalem Mountains, 2015, Marine Sedimentary

I had ordered the 2014 Green Berserkers Cuvee so was offered the 2015 as a bit of a reward/upgrade.

Also considering opening one of my CV19 wine purchases. A buy made to support a small vintner.

Scherrer Dry Rose' of Syrah, Sonoma County, 2017. (Very attractive price)

Any thoughts?
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Tue May 26, 2020 2:06 pm

I would open the Rosé of Syrah if I were you.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Pat G » Thu May 28, 2020 7:47 pm

I did open the Rose' of Syrah last night. My husband and I smelled completely different aromas. But we both like the wine. Not past prime. More assessment forthcoming. :wink:
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Jenise » Fri May 29, 2020 12:03 pm

I love syrah roses. Usually a bit rounder with rich undertones. In fact, we had one last night from Chateau Ste Michelle of all things. Not a fan of the winery except as a producer of very durable wines for the common man, and as a winery who honors all former employees (even those who just worked as pourers in the summer months) with 50% discounts for life!, but I really like their dry syrah rose. And if one buys them on release and holds them an additional year or two before imbibing, all the better.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Fri May 29, 2020 12:05 pm

In general I have no issue with holding Rosé for 2-3 years post-vintage.

Tempier can go much longer, but it's a notable exception, along with LdH.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by Jenise » Fri May 29, 2020 12:11 pm

David, I don't either. And the ones I favor tend to be the ones that can go the distance, like Navarro's Mendocino roses of pinot noir, and right now ESJ's '17 Bone Jolly. I've had some great one-offs, too, from producers I don't remember, but which I picked up off-season at half price.
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Re: Rumblings on wine Part 19A

by David M. Bueker » Fri May 29, 2020 12:30 pm

Yeah, the '17 Bone-Jolly is really good right now. The '19 needs a little time in bottle IMO.
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