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Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:06 pm

Over on wine-searcher.com, I found these 3 spellings. Do we use all 3!!!!
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Robin Garr » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:13 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Over on wine-searcher.com, I found these 3 spellings. Do we use all 3!!!!

Bob, here you go:

1. Pallette is a painter's board.

2. Palate is the roof of your mouth, used metaphorically to describe the taste of wine or one's sensibility toward wine.

3. Pallet is a wooden form used to load heavy materials in an industrial setting.

4. Pallete, I believe, is a word with no meaning. :)

I happen to know, however, that Wine-Searcher.com intentionally incorporates many common misspellings in its database, so people who come close to the right word will get a hit rather than a miss. It's A Good Thing.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Mike Filigenzi » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:28 pm

Robin Garr wrote:Bob, here you go:

1. Pallette is a painter's board.

2. Palate is the roof of your mouth, used metaphorically to describe the taste of wine or one's sensibility toward wine.

3. Pallet is a wooden form used to load heavy materials in an industrial setting.

4. Pallete, I believe, is a word with no meaning. :)




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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:30 pm

Flavor, savor, savory...no end to the fun here!
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Tim York » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:47 pm

Robin Garr wrote:1. Pallette is a painter's board.



Is this a British versus American English thing? I always spell a painter's board "palette".
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Dale Williams » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:58 pm

Tim York wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:1. Pallette is a painter's board.

Is this a British versus American English thing? I always spell a painter's board "palette".


Me too. But I think Robin can be excused, he got both of the ones that apply to wine correct! (I'm counting pallet, which is 56 cases in standard winery-ese I believe).

To further Robin's "used metaphorically to describe the taste of wine or one's sensibility toward wine," personally I use "palate" to differentiate flavors in mouth from aromas on nose (though they're both really mostly smell).

So I don't use a palette. I sometimes find different things on the palate than the nose. Many people think I have a crappy palate. Sometimes I taste a great wine and want to buy a pallet, but I don't have storage (or money). :)
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Anders Källberg » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:43 pm

Then of course there is the AOC in Provence, Palette, the smallest major wine region in Provence with most of the vineyards being owned by Château Simone.

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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Tim York » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:08 pm

Dale Williams wrote:
So I don't use a palette.


I use "palette" to encompass the range of flavours or aromas, e.g. "the wine displays a broad palette of floral aromas".

And, of course, Château Simone's AOC.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Ian Sutton » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:19 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Over on wine-searcher.com, I found these 3 spellings. Do we use all 3!!!!


3. Pallet is a wooden form used to load heavy materials in an industrial setting.

Sounds like the palate :wink: of some folk
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Robin Garr » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:34 pm

Tim York wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:1. Pallette is a painter's board.



Is this a British versus American English thing? I always spell a painter's board "palette".

No, it is me being stupid and not looking up stuff before I bloviate.

That said, I think I did a pretty darn good job of pulling all that out of my back pocket with only one ... um, would you believe it's a typo? ;)
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Thomas » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:19 pm

Mike Filigenzi wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:Bob, here you go:

1. Pallette is a painter's board.

2. Palate is the roof of your mouth, used metaphorically to describe the taste of wine or one's sensibility toward wine.

3. Pallet is a wooden form used to load heavy materials in an industrial setting.

4. Pallete, I believe, is a word with no meaning. :)




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A wine forum my foot, Mike. You should see how many PR people misuse the spelling in their press releases!
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Mark Willstatter » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:49 pm

That said, I think I did a pretty darn good job of pulling all that out of my back pocket with only one ... um, would you believe it's a typo? ;)

Not a typo, just the wrong definition :wink: According to my dictionary, a pallette is "a plate in the armpit of a suit of armor". So you can add that to the list, although I doubt there will be much call to use it.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:54 pm

I dunno..........."my Blue Num has the smell and flavor of a plate in the armpit of a suit of armor".
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by David M. Bueker » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:02 pm

Blue Num? :wink:

How about variety or varietal? I just love the thread (on you know where) trying to justify the improper use of varietal.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:00 pm

David, I think we had a lengthy discussion here, earlier this year, on said subject...variety or varietal.
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by David M. Bueker » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:02 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:David, I think we had a lengthy discussion here, earlier this year, on said subject...variety or varietal.


Indeed. Of course it's variety, unless one is dicussing a varietal wine or varietal characteristics.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bernard Roth » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:55 am

Doesn't Pallet rhyme with Ballet?
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Wink Lorch » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:33 am

I find it quite interesting linguistically that the French translation of palate is palais meaning palace - perhaps rather than treating their bodies like temples, the French treat their mouths as palaces. :roll:

Also, for anyone who is still confused, perhaps I could suggest this sentence.
The bottle of Ch. Simone Palette taken off the pallet (of 56 cases) showed a palette of flavours (sorry, flavors) on the palate.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Anders Källberg » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:46 am

Wink Lorch wrote:The bottle of Ch. Simone Palette taken off the pallet (of 56 cases) showed a palette of flavours (sorry, flavors) on the palate.

Brilliant, Lorch!
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Bill Spohn » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:28 am

Wink Lorch wrote:... showed a palette of flavours (sorry, flavors) on the palate.



No need to be sorry for using correct spelling. Flavour, savour, favour all point you out as a man of learning, unlike these untutored ex-colonials that roam this board..... :mrgreen:
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Dale Williams » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:39 am

Bill Spohn wrote:No need to be sorry for using correct spelling. Flavour, savour, favour all point you out as a man of learning


Pretty sure Wink is not a man of learning. :)
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Wink Lorch » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:00 am

OK, that's learned me ... have added a picture (I think!) ... :wink:
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Anders Källberg » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:12 am

Very nice, Wink! That one should certainly stop these rather frequent mistakes.
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Re: Palate, Pallette or Pallete?

by Robin Garr » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:45 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:Flavour, savour, favour all point you out as a man of learning, unlike these untutored ex-colonials that roam this board..... :mrgreen:

Actually, our way was proper English for centuries until Dr. Sam'l Johnson came along and spelt it wrong.
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