Oswaldo Costa wrote:Victorwine wrote:The so called “industrial” standard for ripeness (if by this you mean the traditional Brix to TA ratio) came into existence only because this was “typical” for a specific wine growing region.
Thanks for your clarifications throughout this thread. My understanding is that the so-called industrial standard is not dependent on custom or culture or taste. It reflects a physiological point of inflection in the grape's maturation, different for every type of grape, at which sweetness stops increasing as a result of increasing amounts of sugar, and begins to increase by concentration of the existing amount of sugar. In other words, up to the industrial point, sweetness increases as a result of accumulation; after that, sweetness increases as a result of concentration. Is this true?
The trouble is, Oswaldo, this isn't exactly true for all grape varieties. Some actually go into reverse sugar or acid mode at a certain maturation point. In fact, I just came back from a two-day conference at Cornell University. At the experiment station they work to try to identify the various differences in grape variety maturation.
And as we post, there's a fellow running around the world selling a maturation identifiction process that supposedly identifies individual maturation by sight, feel, and taste with special emphasis on the color of the seeds and stems. I took his seminar two years ago and then went out into the vineyard with some winemakers for an article about the process. Promising as it is, I recently read a pooh, poohing of this berry identification system from none other than Tom Stevenson in a two-part article on Riesling.
My point: this subject has yet to be solidified in the wine science world, so whatever you hear or read may be influenced by the science, but often with a dose of belief systems thrown in for support.