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WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Thomas » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:07 am

Over the years I've tasted many un-oaked Chardonnay that remind me of malt, which I have been told by others is somewhat of a signature of the grape under certain growing and winemaking techniques.

Yesterday, I had occasion to taste an inexpensive Washington State Chardonnay, Pine and Post, 2004. When I say inexpensive I am not kidding: $6 a bottle.

Anyway, the wine was worth the price, I suppose. No oak that I could detect, and I usually like that. As to that malty quality I often pick up, this one was on the wild side.

Had the wine a slight CO2 to it, which it did not have, I am sure I would have sworn it was a fine, clean lager. This wine tasted like beer to me. Smelled like beer too. But beer with a 13% alcohol kick!
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Re: WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Rahsaan » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:56 pm

Thomas wrote:under certain growing and winemaking techniques.


Interesting. What would those growing conditions and winemaking techniques be?
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Re: WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Thomas » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:19 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
Thomas wrote:under certain growing and winemaking techniques.


Interesting. What would those growing conditions and winemaking techniques be?


Not too ripe, cool stainless fermentation and stainless storage, no oak; I think that's the scenario. Probably a certain yeast selection too.
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Re: WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Carl Eppig » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:27 pm

I knew there was something I liked about wine made that way!

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Re: WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Rahsaan » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:09 pm

Thomas wrote:Not too ripe, cool stainless fermentation and stainless storage, no oak; I think that's the scenario. Probably a certain yeast selection too.


Minimize the taste of the fruit. Makes sense. But also sounds a bit "neutral" in a way.

I assume the yeast selection would not be made with this Beer Element in mind, but rather that it becomes and unintended side-consequence.
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Re: WTN: beer and Chardonnay

by Thomas » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:43 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Thomas wrote:Not too ripe, cool stainless fermentation and stainless storage, no oak; I think that's the scenario. Probably a certain yeast selection too.


Minimize the taste of the fruit. Makes sense. But also sounds a bit "neutral" in a way.

I assume the yeast selection would not be made with this Beer Element in mind, but rather that it becomes and unintended side-consequence.


I don't know if it's minimizing the taste of fruit rather than offering different fruit sensations, i.e., tart apple as opposed to sweet melon, etc.
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