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Sue Courtney wrote:
Smith says, "If food, glassware, ambient temperature, perfume and the people sitting next to you all influence the taste of wine, why wouldn't music?"
Nicholas Grenier wrote:Remember when it used to be as simple as red with Beethoven and white with Vivaldi? Now you have to consider how Haydn's chromatic coloring of augmented 6 chords and flat 2 chords can potentially coax an unpleasant metallic taste out of tannic reds, or how the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th is really better suited to red Burgundy whereas the 1st, 2nd, and 4th movements are very much Cali Pinot. To keep it simple, I try to stick to wine friendly fugues by Bach or masses by Josquin des Prez.
Michael K wrote:I totally believe that this is true. For many, wine is like music but it is simplier for me. It affects my mood and I like it. My favourite combo is Diana Krall and Comte Lafon Monthelie or G Roumier Morey Saint Denis.
Robert J.
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Tim York wrote:No music and good conversation is pretty good too.
Cynthia Wenslow
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:32 pm
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It affects your mood, but does music change the taste of your wine? That is this man's claim.
Howie Hart
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
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I don't remember, but I suppose Joplin with Rose would work. Which Joplin? Take your pick.Nicholas Grenier wrote:Remember when it used to be as simple as red with Beethoven and white with Vivaldi?...
Thomas wrote:It affects your mood, but does music change the taste of your wine? That is this man's claim.
Ian Sutton
Spanna in the works
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Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm
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Ian Sutton wrote:Anything more than that Iand I think cause and effect are being confused.
Sue Courtney wrote:W. Blake Grey writes in SFGate.com that a wine industry provocateur, Clark Smith, insists that music can change wine flavours.
Mark Lipton wrote:Sue Courtney wrote:W. Blake Grey writes in SFGate.com that a wine industry provocateur, Clark Smith, insists that music can change wine flavours.
Putting aside my feelings for Mr. Smith, I still find that statement hard to take seriously. Our sense of smell is central to experiencing wine, and is also closely tied to memory for most people (most people find that their sense of smell is most evocative of memory); music OTOH is closely tied to our emotional state so one wouldn't expect much of a connection. Perhaps Mr. Smith has a particular form of synesthesia (I'm being charitable). FWIW, I almost always choose jazz for wine tastings because I find that it more easily can be placed into the background. However, given my druthers, I'll have no music at all as I also find that it just distracts me.
Mark Lipton
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
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Oliver McCrum wrote:Listening to music, particularly good music, absolutely interferes with my ability to taste analytically. Several members of my tasting group are sophisticated classical music lovers and will play choice cuts during the 'quiet time,' and I always find it much harder to taste when the music's playing.
It feels like the same part of the brain is involved.
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
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Oliver McCrum wrote:Mark,
My post wasn't very well written, but for me it's clearly not just a generic problem of concentration, it seems something quite specific. I can read a book with music playing, for example, much more easily.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Mark Lipton wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:Mark,
My post wasn't very well written, but for me it's clearly not just a generic problem of concentration, it seems something quite specific. I can read a book with music playing, for example, much more easily.
But can you read all kinds of books with all kinds of music playing? What I was thinking of was specifically our analytical facility, located exclusively in the cerebral cortex. Certain kinds of music engage our analytical facilities, as does the analysis of wine. I can sip a simple Cotes du Rhone while enjoying music, but put on the Brandenburg Concertos and ask me taste through a selection of six Grand Cru Burgs and I'll come to a screeching halt. YMMV, of course.
Mark Lipton
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