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WTN: Saumur, MSR, badass PTG

by Dale Williams » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:43 am

(with Jenise's zin thread I couldn't resist)

Over 6 days (orginally used as a cooking wine, then sampled every day or two) the 2005 Hureau Saumur blanc is a good value if not an exciting wine. Ripe apple fruit, a light waxy note, good acidity. The amazing thing about Chenin (well, one of the amazing things) is how well it holds. On day 4 it's as lively as day 1. A little oxidative note on day 6, but still drinkable. B

I was grilling some andouille and squash, along with some leftover asparagus,and decided to open the 1995 Graillot Crozes-Hermitage, thinking the pepper spiciness of the Syrah would go well. Two problems emerged- the wine seemed somewhat flat and pepperless, and the sausage was quite hot/spicy. I rebottled most of the Rhone in a 375 screwcap, and opened the 2005 Carl Loewen "Leiwener Klostergarten" Riesling Kabinett. Citrus and flowers on the nose, a nice blend of ripe mango and zippy lime on palate. Some mineral/slate on finish, excellent length for level, very satisfying wine. B+
Will revisit the Graillot over weekend. I put most of what didn't fit in half in vinegar crock, but a little left in glass seemed to gain interest. We'll see.

With an assortment of leftovers, the 2004 Lafarge "L'Exception" Bourgogne Passetoutgrain. This was a bit of a shock when poured- easily the darkest PTG I've ever seen. Once tasted, I think I can safely say its the densest biggest PTG I've ever tasted. Rich black cherry fruit, balanced acidtiy, ripe tannins. Once I get over my surprise I quite enjoy, and enjoy it over a 5 hour period. At end still lively, though tannins have eased. If this is the 2004, what is the 2005 like? B+/A-

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: Saumur, MSR, badass PTG

by Rahsaan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:44 pm

Dale Williams wrote:Over 6 days (orginally used as a cooking wine, then sampled every day or two) the 2005 Hureau Saumur blanc is a good value if not an exciting wine..


Is this the one that was recently discounted to $10 at Chambers?

I liked a previous vintage of the wine (maybe 02), so I thought about buying it, but Lyle actually managed to talk me out of buying that particular bottle.
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Re: WTN: Saumur, MSR, badass PTG

by Dale Williams » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:23 am

This was from Chambers, but I think it was on sale at $12. Maybe the '04 was $10? In any case, I wasn't very impressed on opening, but I thought it got better days 2-4. I don't think you missed out on anything, as noted not exciting, but I thought a good value. In any case, if Lyle didn't like kudos to him for being honest with customers.

I retried the Graillot on Friday, from a filled to brim 375 that had been refrigerated. A little more N. Rhone typicity, a bit of spice and dark berry fruit. Mature tannins. But it still seemed a bit flat to me. By Saturday totally oxidized (left on counter). I have one more left, hope it shows better. Don't know if past it or poor storage.
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Re: WTN: Saumur, MSR, badass PTG

by Rahsaan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:07 pm

Dale Williams wrote:In any case, if Lyle didn't like kudos to him for being honest with customers..


Yes, he's usually so bullish about everything, it was really striking.

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