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Chateau des Hautes Ribes Vacqueyras 2001

by D Honig » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:06 pm

I started a blog called Two Days per Bottle Wine Tasting, under the theory the change from one night to the next gives you a far better idea of the drinking window of the wine than just a single quaff. Let me know what you think about this if you would. Thanks.

Appellation Vacqueyras Controlee, Mis en Bouteille a la Propriete. 14% alcohol, $15.98.

Half an hour after opening, the color was translucent, like an Oregon pinot, but brick red, trending strongly to orange near the rim. The nose was lovely, starting wtih coffee, then hazelnut liquor, buttered toast, and blackberries. Blackberries were clear on the palate as well, along with cassis, followed by sage and licorice, all over an underlying mushroom earthiness. Tannins did not show up until the finish, which was long, smooth and had a creamy softness.

Three hours after the bottle was opened the nose had changed. It was more obviously earthy with boatloads of chocolate. Blackberries and vanilla cream rounded it out. The three hours made a big difference on the palate, which is now far fruitier, with cherries and blackberries dominating, the mushrooms and sage now in the background. Add strawberry and caramel in the midpalate. This is a very nice wine, even lovely for the price. The finish is still soft, creamy, and long.

More tomorrow.

Second night now. The wine was open last night for about 5 hours, then closed with a Vacuu-Vin stopper. It is still tremendously aromatic, even more floral than last night. Lavender is coming through along with black currant, blackberries and pepper. Plenty of black fruit and plums on the palate, perhaps even a tiny touch of cranberry, along with a pinch of pepper. That said, it is far more one-dimensional than last night, giving its initial fruit and not much to follow. There is also some clear oxidation tasting like a wine over the hill.

Conclusion? This was a good wine, even a great wine with the QPR, on the first night. The second night is was on its way down hill. That probably means it is ready to drink now but right now. Don't leave this in the cellar waiting for it to get better.
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Re: Chateau des Hautes Ribes Vacqueyras 2001

by Oswaldo Costa » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:11 am

Thanks for the note. Although it makes sense, I'm not sure about the correlation between the speed of oxidation after a bottle is opened and how long you can age a wine. There must be some, but it may be limited. I, too, would be very curious to hear what people here think.
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Re: Chateau des Hautes Ribes Vacqueyras 2001

by D Honig » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:19 am

I'm not sure the oxidation matters, either. That is probably just a factor of being opened. I'm looking more for the effect of a long decanting - opening up, getting more fruit - on a younger wine. That said, at least in my (limited) experience, an old over-the-hill wine will have a slightly oxidized flat plummy sort of taste, without much beyond the initial impression. That is what I am trying to describe here. I do consider this an ongoing experiment, and really appreciate the input.
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Re: Chateau des Hautes Ribes Vacqueyras 2001

by Oswaldo Costa » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:39 am

By oxidation I simply meant exposure to oxigen. How a wine reacts to rapid exposure (once opened) may or may not be a good indicator of how it will react to slow exposure (in a bottle using natural cork).
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