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WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Dale Williams » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:15 am

Betsy's mom got into NYC, in preparation for a "girl's trip" to DC with Betsy, Betsy's sister, and niece. We had my mom-in law, sister in law, and nephew over for dinner Saturday night. Started with a white bean and garlic scape dip, along with the 2007 Loosen "Dr. L" Riesling (Mosel). Lighter and lither than a couple recent vintages, this is bright and an excellent value at under $10. Peach and golden apple, a little hint of lime. Good length for an inexpensive QbA. I've generally thought of Dr L as good for the money, but this is just good without qualifier. B+/B. .

Dinner was grilled lobster, scallops, and shrimp, served with a grilled zucchini and tomato salad  and a green salad. Dinner wine was the 2005 Manciat Macon-Charnay Vieilles Vignes. Ripe pear fruit, a little hint of canned pears, the vanilla aromas don't seem integrated. I can't find my previous note on this but thought I remembered liking it, but this comes across like a mediocre CalChard, albeit with more acidity. I prefer the cheaper straightforward Franclieu cuvee to the old vines bottling. B-/C+

Nice evening, though humidity and heat drove us into the AC.

Last night I was having leftovers of the 2 salads with some lamb/rosemary sausage from the farmer's market. Usually I like sausage and off-dry Riesling, so I opened the 2007 Leitz Rüdesheimer Klosterlay Riesling Kabinett. OK, I admit this was a bit of a shock. My impression is that 2007 is supposed to be a more "classic" vintage than some recent ones, but this comes across as sweeter/richer/more extracted than the 2005 I had recently. Once I adjusted, quite a wine. Big white stone fruits are deep and rich; there's a solid wall of acids that keeps this in balance. Lovely wine, once preconceptions are put aside. Will check again tonight. B+/A-

But....after tasting this, and getting a good sniff of the sausages (more about meat than spices), I wasn't sure that the wine was the best match. So I opened a 375 of the 2005 Marjosse (Bordeaux AC). This was a pleasant surprise for $9 half. Black plum and currant fruit, a bit of earth and herb, surprising tannins for an Entre Deux Mers area red but I guess that is expected in 2005. We'll see how it shows overnight. Solid B, good value for cheap Bdx.

For two very different wines, it was interesting how well both did after dinner with the Sprout Creek Farm "Ouray" (closest comparison is a Englsh farmhouse cheddar, but a bit milder).


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
 
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by David M. Bueker » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:04 pm

That Klosterlay is a pretty amazing wine. I'm shocked you found it bigger than the '05. I found it much more linear.

$9 for a 375 of Marjosse? Oh gosh how I remmeber the '00 being $10 for a full bottle.
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Oswaldo Costa » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:17 pm

Thanks for the notes. I'm glad you liked the Klosterlay - I picked up a bottle on Friday, following David's suggestion. I also picked up a few other rieslings: an 02 Breuer Nonnenberg, an 07 Leitz "ein zwei drei" and, most curious of all to try, a 1977 Kurt Darting Pfalz Durkheimer Spielberg Riesling. I have never tried a riesling this old, so am dying of curiosity...
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Rahsaan » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:26 pm

Dale Williams wrote: 2007 Leitz Rüdesheimer Klosterlay Riesling Kabinett. OK, I admit this was a bit of a shock. My impression is that 2007 is supposed to be a more "classic" vintage than some recent ones, but this comes across as sweeter/richer/more extracted than the 2005 I had recently. Once I adjusted, quite a wine. 


I had the same reaction to the Drachenstone kabinett from 2007.
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Dale Williams » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:19 pm

I paid $9 for '00 Marjosse, but between currency and half bottle premium this seemed very fair. Last little pour didn't do well overnight, but 2 oz in bottom seldom does.

Oswaldo, what pradikat is that wine? I'm surprised, I thought I discovered Darting in about '99 vintage, hard to believe he had been going for decades. :oops:
I have a bottle or two of the 123 coming.

David, Leitz doesn't seem as big tonight, But it is sweet. Very sweet for Kab.

Rahsaan, Kab or Qba?

edited for stupid vintage mistake
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Oswaldo Costa » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:55 pm

Sorry, it's a Spatlese...

Lyle Fass mentions it in the June 26 post from his blog:

http://rockssandfruit.blogspot.com/

In the most recent posting (June 30), Lyle writes enthusiastically about the wines I posted on, somewhat less enthusiastically, a few hours ago.
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by David M. Bueker » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:32 pm

Lyle writes enthusiastically about everything he sells. That's why his blog is questionable as a resource.
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by Rahsaan » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:52 am

Dale Williams wrote:Rahsaan, Kab or Qba?


It was the kabinett and I didn't taste the 05 so I can't compare it to that. But it did shock me a bit at first considering what I was expecting from the vintage. (Of course it was the first and only 07 Rheingau wine that I have tasted).
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Re: WTN: 2 '07 Germans, '05 Bdx cheapie, '05 Macon

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:58 am

After tasting over 100 2007s I am left with the impression that 2007 is not a light and pretty, kabinett vintage. It's strong spatlese.
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