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Sam Platt wrote: 'non-wine drinkers prefer sweet wines'
Howie Hart wrote: The other obvious conclusion you could draw from your observation is that non-wine drinkers prefer white to red.
Sam Platt wrote:St. Francis Cab Sauv.... Saw one person make a face and dump a half glass in the sink!
James Roscoe wrote:Bill
Are you saying the St. Francis Cab. is that bad? I don't think I've tried it, but if someone else is buying, I'don't think I'm pouring it down the sink.
Cheers!
James
Sam Platt wrote:I found the data on what our guests consumed interesting enough to share here, though I have no interpretation of the result, other than 'non-wine drinkers prefer sweet wines':
BPBill wrote:James,
Bad? Probably not, as many people, including Sam, seem to like it just fine...and that's OK. I have not tried their Cabernet for 4 or 5 years, but they always were more than a bit overdone with the charred oak for my tastes.
Tim York wrote:Were not the Trimbach wines dry? Very low residual sugar is the house style, although it is rare nowadays to find a really dry Gewurztramer.
Sam Platt wrote:Bill, not overoaked at all ('03 vintage, I think). Dark fruit and berry, spice and some oak in the background. Quite full bodied with a nice nose. One of my favorites at the $22 price point. You might want to give it another go.
Redwinger wrote:Sam Platt wrote:Bill, not overoaked at all ('03 vintage, I think). Dark fruit and berry, spice and some oak in the background. Quite full bodied with a nice nose. One of my favorites at the $22 price point. You might want to give it another go.
Sam,
If we have any of the '03 laying around the shop, I just might throw it into the Saturday tasting line-up. I would be quite happy if their house style has changed. Anyone know if they have changed winemakers recently?
Curly
Hoke wrote:Mark:
That's actually a pretty interesting breakdown of wines there.
My first takeaway is the impressive showing of SB against Chardonnay---in the not too recent past, you'd never see any white wine challenging Chardonnay. But that's changing. And you can't put it down to egregious overoaking, because the '04 Valley Oaks Chard isn't. It's just that Chardonnay doesn't have the dominance it used to, and SB has really gained (with Pinot Grigo having gained significantly more, of course).
And that's really a higher incidence of red consumption than I would've thought...unless you had a white wine glass and a red wine glass out at the same time, then it fits a little better.
The selection also points up the universality/globalized nature of wine these days, doesn't it? Especially in the modest price categories. Lot of good, decent, cleanly made wines out there, from all over the world. And that's a good thing!
Mark Lipton wrote:NV Gruet Brut sparkler: 57 bottles consumed
2005 Monkey Bay SB: 23 bottles
2004 Fetzer 'Valley Oaks' Chardonnay: 22 bottles
2004 Woop Woop Shiraz: 53 bottles
Bill wrote:If we have any of the '03 laying around the shop, I just might throw it into the Saturday tasting line-up. I would be quite happy if their house style has changed. Anyone know if they have changed winemakers recently?
Sam Platt wrote:Bill, If you have a chance to taste the St. Francis let us know if it is the same as you remember. Can you suggest an American Cab ($20-$30) that you prefer to compare and contrast to it?
Sam Platt wrote:Bill, If you have a chance to taste the St. Francis let us know if it is the same as you remember. Can you suggest an American Cab ($20-$30) that you prefer to compare and contrast to it?
Otto wrote:Trimbach rocks! But do they really make a Riesling Kab???
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