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WTN: London offline in June

by David from Switzerland » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:14 pm

Offline at restaurant Alba in London with Jamie, Nick, Rahsaan, Theresa and Victor. Great company, food and wine. Hope there will be another opportunity to meet up again soon!

Pol Roger Champagne Brut Cuvée Sir Winston Churchill 1990
Thanks to Nick. A bit nutty white Burgundy-like and darkly veggie-fruited. Fair enough body. Medium-fine perlage. Noticeable acidity. Not too long on the finish. Could be fresher and/or more refreshing. Balanced quantity-wise, but whether this can/will develop the corresponding harmony with bottle age. Not the expression I expect from a Champagne in this category. Rating: 89+/-?

Hans Wirsching Riesling Kabinett Trocken Ipfhöfer Julius-Echter-Berg 2006
Thanks to Rahsaan. It has been a while since I last had a Bocksbeutel from Franken. Pale transparent green colour. Nicely ripe white blossoms and blackcurrant. The 14% alcohol adds to the impression of light apple sweetness and/or warmth. Not too dry nor alcoholic, surprisingly, but the firm and forthright rather than expressive type. Even so, there is some subtlety especially on the nose. A positive surprise. Rating: 86-/85

Trimbach Riesling Clos Ste-Hune 2000
Thanks to Theresa. The first of a handful of wines that should have shown better, but appeared to suffer from travel shock. Full yellow-golden colour, but really looks very youthful. Very harmonious, quite rich, lightly advanced nose that someone (not me) found “a bit Australian”. Round, rich, flavourful. Some kerosene rather than petrol, Nick said (the latter being a characteristic one virtually never gets in CSH, by the way, in contrast to CFE). Nice acid cut. Pierre Trimbach apparently said to our friend Fredrik from Sweden in a conversation last year: "Le 2000 reste un grand millésime, mais je ne pense pas qu'il sera meilleur que le 1990." Fredrik also told me that Robert Petronio wrote in La Revue de Vin du France about the 2000: "Quand la maturité est plus importante, le CSH esquisse un sourire, il fait moins 'Trimbach'..." What I like about this wine (and have from the beginning) is that while it shows exceptional early harmony and many seemingly mature CSH characteristics early, such as golden veggies and ripe lime, forest earth, pine and pistachio, that sense of prematurity is deceptive, as the quite important structure and underlying backbone remain as youthful as ever – the wine has barely budged since release, and while there is that sense of early harmony, the wine remains adolescent, neither too precise nor elegant at this stage, nor does it open up with airing (on the contrary, it closed down as one would expect from such a young CSH). It would be a pity to drink this too early. Agreed, as powerful and minerally and ageworthy as the 1990 or 1971 (and to a slightly lesser extent, the 1983) it is not. But to call it "less Trimbach" in a vintage like 2000 is an exaggeration. Mind you, there have been such vintages (that is, where the terroir expression gets glossed over or blurry due to surmaturité), and given the climate change I am afraid there will be more. The 2000, however, is merely less of a toughie than the greatest vintages of the past. Rating: 93+/94+?

Clusel-Roch Côte-Rôtie 2001
Thanks to Rahsaan, who did not seem entirely happy with this bottle. Ruby-black with a soft purple hue, almost opaque at the centre. Some volatility and faint sewage, far from problematic. Bacon fat, lavender-tinged plum and cranberry jam fruit. Good sweetness and richness. Medium-plus weight. Integrated roasted herbs, soft laurel, tobacco and sage finesse notes. Relatively mild but firm enough tannin, medium metal note to not too high acidity. Medium-plus length. Could be more intense, but it was certainly fresher and more lively than the Ogier. New-oakier, albeit hardly in a negative way. Rating: 92+/93?

Michel Ogier Côte-Rôtie 1998
Thanks to Jamie. The standard cuvée spends about 18 months in oak, about 25-30% of which new. Over 70% of the grape material stems from the Côte Blonde. A bit denser or prunier garnet-ruby-black, minor pink-orange at the rim. Bretty sewage, although not off-putting. More viscous, more full-bodied than the 2001 Clusel-Roch. More oak-induced, marzipan-tinged tannin, and yet, I was told there is less new oak here. Soft Argan oil and smoke to the more jammy-modern plum in addition to the lightly bretty sewage. Minor strawberry jam sweetness. A bit coarser than the Clusel-Roch. Rating: 91+/92?

Marc Sorrel Hermitage Le Gréal 1995
Thanks to Nick. Syrah with 7-8% Marsanne blended in. Ruby-black, faint watery-orange rim. More iron, lighter, faint charcoal and smoke. Olive oil, soft black pepper. Probably telling that my notes contain no (primary) fruit descriptors. A bit tough, tight, somewhat worn-out tannin. A bit shorter than the other two wines. Far from bad, of course, but not a 1995 Hermitage I would hold on to any longer, in contrast to e.g. the Chave or the Pavillon from the same vintage. Rating: 90-/89?

Château Musar 2000
Thanks to Jamie. Served blind. Ruby with an orange hue, watery orange rim, some black reflections. Nebbiolo-like rose-hip, soft truffle, anise, acids and tannin, I thought, although unusually blurry and soapy for a Piedmontese wine (= I was happy to learn it was not, and no longer quibbling about the blurriness and soapiness when I learnt it was a Musar, as most if not all vintages I have tasted showed this characteristic, and never in a truly negative way – I like Musar’s relative weirdness). Sweetly red-fruity. Oregano and other herbs. Very long. Tasty. Rating: 89+/90

Roberto Voerzio Barolo Cerequio 1990
Thanks to Victor. Glossy, faintly pruney ruby-black, fine orange rim. Complex and precise, quite minerally fruit. Intense dried tomato, fresher cherry. Good cut. Quite tight and concentrated, sweet and dry. Less oaky than the La Serra and Brunate from the same vintage (let alone the best later vintages), although not without a soft charcoal note to the otherwise nice, not too dry tannin. Increasingly complex with airing. Faint truffle, rose petal and stronger blood orange finesse notes. “Slightly damp and cellary”, Nick said – I am clueless as to what made him think so. But certainly a powerful and austere kind of Nebbiolo, concentrated but without quite the fruit density and expression of the greatest later vintages, i.e. 1996 and 1997 in Voerzio’s case. It is a paradox if not irony that those manage to be more powerful without over-emphasizing power, as the 1990 does to some extent. Having said that, it cannot be denied this suffered from having travelled in checked-in luggage on Victor’s flight from Germany the same day (the sediment was not the main problem, rather the diminished expressiveness). After 36 hours a bit sweeter, more dried tomato and rose hip, with yet greater emphasis to the impressive smoky minerality. Rating: 93+/94

István Szepsy Tokaji Aszúessencia Danczka Dülö 1993
My contribution that night. 9.5% alcohol. 900 bottles made. I wrongly assumed a sediment-free late harvest sticky would suffer less from travelling in checked-in luggage on a flight from Switzerland earlier the same day – this showed significantly less well than earlier bottles. Amber-yellow colour. Coffee, round date, cocoa, apricot, almond, caramel, and an intriguing soft red-fruity quality. Came across as more intellectual, and less sensual than usually, as neither the viscosity, fruit, power nor length fully emerged. Showed a bit better the following day, but still not as expected. But: it is entirely possible this is going through the same in-between phase now as most top 1993s (even if this effect is less noticeable in the stylistically lightly oxidative Szepsy Aszús of the era than some stylistically more modern ones). Rating: 94+

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by Bruce Hayes » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:16 pm

David, you mention that one of the participants was Nick. Was that Nick Alabaster by any chance?
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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by David M. Bueker » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:32 pm

David,

Tom Stevenson has written in the World of Fine Wine that the 2000 CSH is marked by botrytis and a horrible example of CSH (specifically saying that botrytis affected berries should never go into CSH). Your thoughts?
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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by David from Switzerland » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:02 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Tom Stevenson has written in the World of Fine Wine that the 2000 CSH is marked by botrytis and a horrible example of CSH (specifically saying that botrytis affected berries should never go into CSH). Your thoughts?


1. If it were negatively marked by botrytis, do you think Pierre Trimbach (who prefers his CSH sans botrytis anyhow) would like the 2000 at all (he thinks it's one of the best if not the best since 1990)? 2. Even if the 2000 were so noticeably marked by botrytis (in reality less so than the average 1995 Puligny-Montrachet), ever wondered why everybody loves the two heavily botrytised versions of 1989 CSH (or the 1967, for that matter)? 3. A whiff of botrytis may be where that sense of early harmony despite underlying acid backbone and structure for aging in some CSH vintages comes from (I believe so, but the Trimbachs prefer avoiding botrytis at all cost, and I no disagreement insofar as I have always loved their style). 4. Yes, the 2000 does have a smoother mouthfeel, as well as show (perhaps) a more Van Volxem early harmony kind of character - makes me wonder what's so wrong with that, and also, if we collect fine wine because we expect a product to taste the same year in and year out? 5. Ever tasted the 2000 yourself?

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by David M. Bueker » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:20 pm

I have not yet had the pleasure of the 2000 (it was not available in my area), but I have had the 1995 (another year that Stevenson paints with the same brush) and love it.

I'm merely looking for some discussion on the point, as it also builds on something I have heard about Donnhoff, where he though a touch of botrytis was something that could add that final drop of complexity to make a truly great wine.

I suppose it's all about personal preference, but I have no problem with a little noble botrytis in my wine.
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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by Victor John Randall » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:03 am

Nice notes, Dave. Agree on your comments that the CSH, the Cerequio and the Szepsy were all underperforming compared to other tastings, where they had been tasted directly after removal from pristine clellar storage. What does that teach us? Send the wines ahead of time and let them rest for at least a week or (better) two.
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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by Fredrik L » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:31 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Tom Stevenson has written in the World of Fine Wine that the 2000 CSH is marked by botrytis and a horrible example of CSH (specifically saying that botrytis affected berries should never go into CSH).


No wonder Tom Stevenson is not that highly regarded in Alsace... Personally I prefer bone-dry versions à la 1997, but like the sunnier examples, too. If I could ask for anything, it would be for no more malo. (Pierre has promised me to do his best :wink: )

The Szepsy would have been nice to try: the only bottle I have found was brown and ugly, and hence I did not buy it.

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by Mark Lipton » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:18 pm

Fredrik L wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:
The Szepsy would have been nice to try: the only bottle I have found was brown and ugly, and hence I did not buy it.


Brown and ugly is not necessarily a bad sign for Tokaji. More than likely, it would have had a marvelous, coffee-like nose. If you ever visit the caves of Tokaji you will see (amidst the copious black mold) older bottles that are the color of coffee -- and that's just how they're supposed to look.

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by David from Switzerland » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:17 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:Brown and ugly is not necessarily a bad sign for Tokaji. More than likely, it would have had a marvelous, coffee-like nose. If you ever visit the caves of Tokaji you will see (amidst the copious black mold) older bottles that are the color of coffee -- and that's just how they're supposed to look.


Careful: if/when modern Tokaji Aszú looks murky (assuming that's what Fredrik's "ugly" means), it's likely to have been misstored. Szepsy's 1993s do look more amber-brown than the most modern examples (less so than ones from the Socialist era), of course, but without having seen the bottle Fredrik's mentioned, it's impossible for me to tell if it was indeed misstored. Most importantly, even with Socialist era bottles, one can usually tell if bottles retain a mahogany/copper gloss when held against the light, or look plain murky. Experience tells me ones that retain gloss tend to be at least OK, and vice versa.

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by Fredrik L » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:12 pm

Thanks for helping me out, my friend! "Ugly" was the first word that I thought of, but "murky" is of course the adjective commonly used, and it did indeed look like the wine had had a murky past :wink:
I sometimes take a chance when I see a bottle that might have been misstored, but when the price is pretty high, I prefer the "better safe than sorry"-rule.

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Re: WTN: London offline in June

by David from Switzerland » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:32 pm

Fredrik L wrote:Thanks for helping me out, my friend! "Ugly" was the first word that I thought of, but "murky" is of course the adjective commonly used, and it did indeed look like the wine had had a murky past :wink:
I sometimes take a chance when I see a bottle that might have been misstored, but when the price is pretty high, I prefer the "better safe than sorry"-rule.


I've reached the point where I'm not taking such chances anymore - life's too short to drink misstored wine, so to speak. Such a bottle would have to be darn cheap to tempt me, in other words, cooking wine price category (as the kitchen is where it would probably end up anyhow).

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