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WTN: Portugal showing stereotypical faults of one World.

by Tim York » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:13 pm

Alfocheiro Preto - Dão DOC – 1997 – Quinta dos Roques – Alc. 13.5% - Alfrocheiro mono-varietal.

Ben Rotter got upbraided by Victor for inaccurate stereotypes when he wrote the following about an Alfrocheiro from the Ribatejano region -
“This is like a combination of New World-big-and-soft-yet-dull style and an Old World-harsh-yet-lively in a way in which the best bits of each unite in harmony: ripe fruit yet with brightness, a palate that’s big and smooth yet savoury.”

So at the risk of attracting more thunderbolts, I have to say that, if I had been blind, I would have certainly taken this one for New World, probably Antipodean, and “big-and-soft-yet-dull” would be a pretty fair summary. Perhaps “dull” is not quite right here because the flavour profile is unusual; “soggy” is more apt.

C: Deep garnet with little sign of bricking.
N: “In your face” showing perfumed red fruit with notes of musk, sweetened cigar box and sweet liquorice.
P: Up-front, round and refulgent showing similar perfumed aromas to the nose together with fruit having a slightly canned sweet piquancy, like English boiled sweets, and a curious absence of tannic structure; not my thing at all; 13/20.

Reliable palates like Jancis Robinson’s have liked this wine in other vintages at a younger stage. So maybe what this one needed was its youthful vibrancy and I simply kept it too long (but then the oak would have been more obtrusive). The Jaen mono-varietal was more successful at a similar age, IMHO.

Perhaps there is a good reason, therefore, why the frequently flouted Dão appellation rules lay down a cocktail of varieties including a minimum of 20% Touriga Nacional.
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Re: WTN: Portugal showing stereotypical faults of one World.

by Ben Rotter » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:17 pm

Thanks for the (well written, evocative) note, Tim.

Tim York wrote:Ben Rotter got upbraided by Victor for inaccurate stereotypes


I think he thought I was saying something I wasn't in that thread.

Tim York wrote:...a curious absence of tannic structure... Reliable palates like Jancis Robinson’s have liked this wine in other vintages at a younger stage. So maybe... I simply kept it too long


Maybe, or maybe that combined with the original flavour profile(?). Sorry to hear it wasn't enjoyable - I would recommend the Quinta de Lagoalva for comparison though.
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Re: WTN: Portugal showing stereotypical faults of one World.

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:35 pm

Ben is enthused........>I would recommend the Quinta de Lagoalva for comparison though.

Thanks Ben, been keeping an eye on new arrivals and this is just in. My local wine store is great on Portugal, in fact best selection anywhere I would say. One of the owners is from there!

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