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NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

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Re: NYT on Bottle Shock

by Thomas » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:33 pm

AO Scott called it reasonably close historically. In Decanter Magazine, Steven Spurrier said the exact opposite about the movie.

Who's account is accurate? The suspense is killing me.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Greg Piatigorski » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:07 am

From what I read, its a typical Hollywood script with not much of a real story to tell. I'll side with Spurrier and other wnemakers who say the story is based on real events but veers off too much.

I'll rent it when it gets there, no way I am spending time and money on seeing this in a movie theater.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Nigel Groundwater » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:14 am

Based on what I have read Bottle Shock is loosely based on the lead up to, the event itself [The Judgement of Paris US v France winetasting] and its aftermath.

However key figures like winemakers and some of the key the wines themselves are missing or overlooked [Chateau Montelena Chardonnay is the focus] which devalues the film for those looking for a dramatisation of the entire event.

In addition to multiple omissions, the gratuitous additions further distance it from the facts. And while Alan Rickman's caricature of Steven Spurrier is amusing it is nothing like the man himself. The trailer demonstrates this quite well http://bottleshockthemovie.com/ .

Nevertheless I will watch and doubtless enjoy it when it comes out on DVD but without any expectation of learning more about the reality of that momentous [in wine terms] event. For that George Taber's book is the key resource.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Dale Williams » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:42 pm

I'll probably watch on Netflix, but told friend last night I'd skip in theaters, out of protest of clumsy stealth marketing campaign (I should explain/complain to producers, will look for website)
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Daniel Rogov » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:37 pm

As I wrote in another time and another place: "That the film reconstructs what was an important and interesting event will be denied by none. As a film, however, the subject seems to hold about as much potential fascination and drama as watching a re-enactment of the passage of the 1922 leash laws in Sioux City, Iowa. I may be wrong but personally I'm planning on giving this one a miss until it appears on late-nite television".

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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Daniel Rogov » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:04 pm

Dave, Hi.....

Apologies for disagreeing, but the one true wine film was Babette's Feast. Although most often seen as a "food film", the wines served are quite enough to have made this the feast par excellence for wine lovers.

Veuve Cliquot, Brut Champagne, En Magnum, 1860
Garvey, Amontillado, 1850
Clos de Vougeot, 1845
Hine, Vintage Cognac, 1822

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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by David Glasser » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:14 pm

My understanding is that there is another movie, based on George Taber's book Judgment of Paris, that has yet to be released. Presumably this other movie optioned the book and should be more accurate. Whether it will be better or not, I have no idea...
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Daniel Rogov » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:53 am

Well, it happened - this morning and in the comfort of my own living room, I saw "Bottle Shock". My tasting note follows.

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Bottle Shock, 2008: Lovely scenery but distinctly light-weight, with a pronounced hint of shmaltz on the nose and not very much relationship on the palate or the memory to the variety or events portrayed. Lovely scenery, but wanders more than a bit too far afield from realities. Portrays a blind tasting but it doesn't help much that everyone knows in advance who and what is going to "win". Lacks depth, breadth or length. See now if at all. Score 74.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Diane (Long Island) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:33 am

Great tasting note, uh....movie review. I'll wait to TIVO it and watch it some evening when there is nothing else on TV. Since I recently read Judgement at Paris, there is no need for me to "learn" of these events.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Lou Kessler » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:21 pm

The subject of Bottle Shock came up at lunch with a group of locals yesterday and everyone seemed to be comfortable by changing the subject. :(
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Hoke » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:01 am

Daniel, the lovely scenery you admired was in Sonoma.

They changed part of Sonoma Plaza to Paris, made the Ledson into a Parisian bistro (with the help of a Deux Chevaux and a stately old Citroen, and the old heritage buildings around the Plaza. Many of the scenes were also shot on the Kunde vineyards grounds and up through the Sonoma Valley.

I think it is amusing that, through the magic of Hollywood and constrained by a limited budget, they used Sonoma as a location for both Napa and Paris. :D

Had they used our wines, it would have been even more delightful. :twisted:

Hadn't planned to see the movie, but now I probably will, after learning of the locations. Of course, I'll have the advantage of not having to pretend to pay attention to anything but the lovely scenery. 8)
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Cynthia Wenslow » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:19 am

Next time I am in northern California, I really must get up to Sonoma.
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Re: NYT and SF Chron on Bottle Shock

by Oswaldo Costa » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:59 pm

Last night I saw Bottle Shock on the plane from São Paulo to Newark and can only say that this was decidedly one of the worst movies I have ever had the misfortune of watching. Good thing I was tied to my seat, otherwise I might have jumped.
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