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by Saina » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:58 pm

It has been a great pleasure that I have recently been able to enjoy wines in the way they are meant to be enjoyed: with good friends and good food:

Yesterday, I met Antti + family over some Martin Zwick inspired recipes (carbonara and torta di mele):

  • 1997 Couly-Dutheil Chinon Clos de l'Olive - France, Loire Valley, Touraine, Chinon (9/15/2008)
    34,70€; 12,5% abv; 5,3g/l acidity. A ripe but not jammy scent, obviously Cabernet. Juicy and very moreish palate, good acidity despite obviously being a warm year wine, lovely leafiness. It all seems just what a warmer year Chinon should be, and I did like it enough that I'll probably get another bottle or two, but I still think it slightly lacked personality: I feel I should get more from Chinon. But it was a lovely drop anyway, so not much use complaining about that.
  • 2005 Château Guiraud - France, Bordeaux, Sauternais, Sauternes (9/15/2008)
    Though the scent was very oaky at first it also had a lovely, bright and pure lemon scent (as opposed to a stronger, earthier orange-peel botrytis). Sweet, but well structured so the lemony brightness prevailed. The aftertaste becomes simply sugary, sadly, as the rest of the wine (oak excepted, of course ;) ) was very enjoyable. I was expecting a much heavier wine from '05 so I was pleasantly surprised at how much refreshing notes this also had. I think I would very much enjoy this in a decade or two.

A bunch of recent arrivals, recently taken off the list and soon to arrive at Alko:

  • 2005 Deux Montille Meursault "Casse Tête" - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault (9/15/2008)

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  • 2005 Jean-Marc Brocard Chablis Grand Cru Bougros - France, Burgundy, Chablis, Chablis Grand Cru (9/15/2008)
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  • 2005 Ridgeview Merret-Cavendish - England, West Sussex (9/13/2008)

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    12% abv. A very charming sparkler: a rather red toned nose of apples, ripe but mineral. Fine mousse. A bit softer with plumper fruit than I remembered, but still good structure. Long aftertaste.
  • 2007 Freie Weingärtner Wachau / Domäne Wachau Riesling Smaragd Terrassen - Austria, Niederösterreich, Wachau (9/13/2008)
    11,09€; 13% abv; 6g/l RS; 6,8g/l acidity. Light gold. A very ripe nose, verging on the tropical, with some spice and honey mixed in with the lovable minerals. Quite full bodied, good acidity, but very ripe. Very primary now, I am sure I would have enjoyed it more in a few years.
  • 2005 Éric Texier Côtes du Rhône - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône (9/12/2008)
    13,5% abv. A pretty scent of red berries and some lactic notes, too, and herbs. Good structure of soft tannins and quite noticeable acidity for such a warm year but with ripe fruit, too. Long. A really charming CdR: not a a gobby, sweet example, but an honest one instead! Lovely!
  • 2006 Pieropan Soave Classico Calvarino - Italy, Veneto, Soave Classico (9/10/2008)
    12,5% abv; 23,60€. Upon opening this was very strongly mineral. It became rather ripe and red toned in fruit (red apples and strawberries) but also with a good twist of lemon and green jasmine tea. Quite full bodied though gladly unoaked and with lovely grip and moderate acidity. Though moderate in alcohol and light on its feet, there is an interesting, almost oily sensation on the mineral and incredibly long aftertaste. This manages to balance the brightness and richness very well. Very good.
  • 2005 Domaine Charles Audoin Marsannay Clos de Jeu - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Marsannay (9/6/2008)
    22,90€; 13% abv. Quite dark. It has decent Pinosity but is rather ripe and dark toned: strawberry cola. It smells a bit woody (like actual freshly cut wood, not so much the usual vanillary oak notes). Quite full bodied, fair acidity, some lovable vegetal notes to counter the fruit; strong tannins. I don't know if it is just the year or the style the producer goes for, but it was quite a heavy wine for Marsannay. But the aftertaste has a burst of freshness and becomes light on its feet - like a squirt of lemon suddenly put into a heavy dish! I like some aspects of the wine, but am not convinced of it now. Needs a few years.
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Re: WTN: Chinon, Sauternes, Burgundies, Sussex, Wachau, CdR...

by James Dietz » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:02 am

Otto.. I've enjoyed every Texier wine I've tried...very good producer indeed. I am just beginning to drink some Chinon.. Baudry in particular, and some others the names of which escape me.. nice wines at attractive prices...and really hard to miss with most.
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by Tim York » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:10 pm

I am a fan of Pieropan's wines and your notes expresses very well just why.
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Re: WTN: Chinon, Sauternes, Burgundies, Sussex, Wachau, CdR...

by Jenise » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:08 am

James Dietz wrote:Otto.. I've enjoyed every Texier wine I've tried...very good producer indeed. I am just beginning to drink some Chinon.. Baudry in particular, and some others the names of which escape me.. nice wines at attractive prices...and really hard to miss with most.


Ah, this is interesting! You and I had our cab franc epiphanies the same Tuesday night long ago, and it's interesting to see you've followed me into Loire chinons by acquiring an affection for Baudry. Two more names, then, you will also like: Jouget and Olga Ruffault.
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by Jenise » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:10 am

Otto Nieminen wrote:It has been a great pleasure that I have recently been able to enjoy wines in the way they are meant to be enjoyed: with good friends and good food:


Interesting tasting with overall a focus on fairly young wines, even ones not usually killed in youth like Grand Cru Chablis--rather unusual for your crew, isn't it?

Particularly enjoyed the note on the English sparkler. Would love to try one like that sometime.
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by Robin Garr » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:15 am

Jenise wrote:[Particularly enjoyed the note on the English sparkler. Would love to try one like that sometime.

I met the wine maker from Camel River in Cornwall a while back and enjoyed his classy sparkler with him. The folks in the British sparkling wine community - a notably small group - make a persuasive case that the chalk under Champagne, the white cliffs of Dover and the chalk that underlies Cornwall are all part of the same geological vein. Could be!
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by Saina » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:21 pm

James, I am a huge Texier fan also and so far haven't tasted anything uninteresting from him.

Tim, I love the basic Soave and the Calvarino but can't wrap my head around the more popular Rocca which always seems oaky and full of just plain weird aromas (ketchup and rancid butter seem recurring descriptors of mine vintage after vintage).

Jenise, the focus is inevitably on young wines since I've been into wine such a short time that I don't have a deep stash and of course nothing older is generally available here. I find that most of our tastings therefore do concentrate on younger wines - with gladly the occasional exception.

Robin, did you taste other producers in England? If the Ridgeview is anything to go by, the potential that I so often read about has been realised.

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Re: WTN: Chinon, Sauternes, Burgundies, Sussex, Wachau, CdR...

by James Dietz » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:24 pm

Jenise wrote:Ah, this is interesting! You and I had our cab franc epiphanies the same Tuesday night long ago, and it's interesting to see you've followed me into Loire chinons by acquiring an affection for Baudry. Two more names, then, you will also like: Jouget and Olga Ruffault.


Not that I need more wine, but I will look for these. As my early mentor, I'd say what I learned from you has stuck, though sometimes it took me a while to be able recognize that (I'm thinking in particular of my first experiences with you drinking older Bordeaux). So, more Chinon it is!!
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by Jenise » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:00 pm

James Dietz wrote:
Jenise wrote:Ah, this is interesting! You and I had our cab franc epiphanies the same Tuesday night long ago, and it's interesting to see you've followed me into Loire chinons by acquiring an affection for Baudry. Two more names, then, you will also like: Jouget and Olga Ruffault.


Not that I need more wine, but I will look for these. As my early mentor, I'd say what I learned from you has stuck, though sometimes it took me a while to be able recognize that (I'm thinking in particular of my first experiences with you drinking older Bordeaux). So, more Chinon it is!!


From my perspective, what's so cool is that now that your palate has gained focus and you've dared to acquire preferences and dislikes, that you've ended up in more or less the same place I did. It's been fun to watch you grow through your tasting notes.
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Re: WTN: Chinon, Sauternes, Burgundies, Sussex, Wachau, CdR...

by Rahsaan » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:05 am

Jenise wrote:an affection for Baudry. Two more names, then, you will also like: Jouget and Olga Ruffault.


You obviously know James better than I do, but if someone likes Baudry I wouldn't necessarily think they would like Olga Raffault, they seem to be two very different styles to me?

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