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Mark Lipton wrote:A minor quibble: tainting glass stoppers as 16th C apothecary technology does them a disservice. Ground glass stoppers are still the "industry standard" in chemistry for tight seals, and most Port decanters still employ glass stoppers for an effective seal. In many ways, glass stoppers such as Alcoa's Vino-lok are 21st C technology.
Steve Slatcher
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:51 am
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Oliver McCrum
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Tim York wrote:Unfortunately over here plastic stoppers seem to be better accepted by the market than screwcaps. I don't think that has anything to do with perceived keeping qualities; rather plastic looks and sounds on extraction more like the "real thing". However, Jean Rijckaert, a serious producer, does claim that his Mâconnais and Jura wines going back to 2001 have aged well under plastic.
Howie Hart
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
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Oliver McCrum wrote:
I just received my first Italian wine under screwcap, a dry Moscato from the South Tyrol. I can't wait for more.
Oliver McCrum wrote:I don't believe that the stopper manufacturers themselves suggest aging wines under these things for more than 18 months.
Robin, I can't believe a producer would bottle an obviously ageworthy red like Aglianico del Vulture under this closure.
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
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Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Tim York wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:
I just received my first Italian wine under screwcap, a dry Moscato from the South Tyrol. I can't wait for more.
Didn't I read somewhere that a certain Italian DOC was refusing the appellation to wines bottled under screwcap?
I wonder if screwcap in South Tyrol could be Austrian influence.
Robin Garr wrote:I've had two really interesting questions from readers, and I'm hoping some of the science types (Mark? Stuart?) can help answer.
1. Are synthetics (either style) recyclable? I've never seen one with the plastics recycling symbol or number imprinted, so I'm guessing not.
2. Do they contain Bisphenol A (BPA)? This chemical in plastics and can liners seems to be of increasing concern to the extent that sports water bottles are now being imprinted with "BPA and phthate free."
The guy who asked the second question cited a Web source,
http://www.ewg.org/node/27163
but I can't evaluate its logic vs hysteria level.
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Patti L wrote:Twice last week, when I opened some wine, I had a lot of difficulty removing the plastic "cork". The first time I was annoyed. I hadn't run into that problem before. It took a lot of work, but it finally came out. The second time, same week, totally different wine, I was teetering on anger. If they are going to use plastic, at least make it pull-outable. Good grief! Don't tease a girl by making it difficult for her to get to her wine!
Steve Slatcher
Wine guru
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:51 am
Manchester, England
Tim York wrote:Didn't I read somewhere that a certain Italian DOC was refusing the appellation to wines bottled under screwcap
Robin Garr wrote:Out came the red plastic cork and ... meh. The tannins are still going strong, but the fruit is gone entirely, replaced by an odd aroma that smelled like mud puddles in red clay to me. My wife thought it smelled like plastic and spit it out, fearing that some petrochemical gunk had leached into the wine.
"What happens after four years with a 2 to 4 year synthetic?" I asked in my naivete. "They begin to degrade."
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
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