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WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Jenise » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:51 pm

I can't think of any wine that I'm more nervous about describing than Reisling.

That is, I guess where I can talk chardonnay and sauv blanc all day long I don't really feel that I own this grape. Once I leave the safety net of six or eight big names like Loosen, Prum and Donnhoff, I get lost in the woods pretty fast. Not speaking the language is definitely an impediment--many of the names just don't stick. Add to this that these two wines were purchased without any foreknowledge I can at this point remember accumulating in advance, and for virtually nothing price wise, and I'm in deep danger of liking wines that David Bueker and the rest of the informal reisling coalition hereabouts consider white trash. (Joke--it's a white grape, get it?)

Nonetheless, I'm going to be brave. Be kind. The "night" wine:

1999 Weingut Kunstler Rheingau Hoehleimer Holle Kabinett Trocken
The last of six bottles fished out of a sale bin for like $5 each about six or seven years ago. I needed white wine for cooking, and figured these would do. Perhaps it was something I learned about the wine after purchae, I really don't remember, but something caused me to spare them that ignoble fate and move them into the regular cellar in spite of the fact that I found the first bottle pleasant but a bit wan. Another bottle a year or so later showed improvement, but then I promptly forgot about them. So here we are in 2008 with unintentionally-cellared dry kabinetts, which sounds to me like grand folly, and no space in the cellar any more for dogs, so I pulled one of these to serve with, if by any chance it was still alive, a soup and salad dinner wherein the soup was a light braise of green beans, buccatini and bacon. It didn't bark. In fact, it was quite impressive. Now a deep straw gold in color, it has somber but richly un-kabinett flavors that are not sweet but which typically reside on the perimeter of sweetness: ginger, coconut, lemongrass and roasted pumpkin without the spice. The finish was long and satisfying, and it was a fine match for the soup.

2000 Grans-Fassian Piesporter Goldtröpfchen Riesling Auslese
Another producer I was unfamiliar with before picking up a singleton (though many more were available) on Winebid for $10. This is the day wine because Piesporter has always tasted like liquid sunshine to me. That is, they never seem shy, and are usually more heavily weighted toward the sweet citruses like orange and tangerine and occasionally tropical stone fruit like loquat and mango. This was like that. Youthful yellow color. On the palate, intense, exuberant fruit that's sweet and showy on the entry and seductively teasing on the finish. Well paired with an Asian-themed dinner of fried shrimp with a sweet and peppery dipping sauce followed by a spicy crab ramen with fresh basil and white truffle oil. I could kill myself for buying only the one bottle.
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Rahsaan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:18 pm

Jenise wrote:I can't think of any wine that I'm more nervous about describing than Reisling.

That is, I guess where I can talk chardonnay and sauv blanc all day long I don't really feel that I own this grape. Once I leave the safety net of six or eight big names like Loosen, Prum and Donnhoff, I get lost in the woods pretty fast. Not speaking the language is definitely an impediment--many of the names just don't stick..


Interesting the way these things happen. I haven't been at this as long as you have, but I find that it is much easier to process information about regions I am already familiar with whereas names from others will go in one ear and right out the other.

It can also be difficult to understand/appreciate wines if you have relatively little experience with others from that region.

That said, seems like you appreciated some pretty nice wines. I'm not familiar with that Kunstler, but Grans Fassian is often very respectable (or more) and well priced.
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Jenise » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:43 pm

Rahsaan wrote:That said, seems like you appreciated some pretty nice wines. I'm not familiar with that Kunstler, but Grans Fassian is often very respectable (or more) and well priced.


As stated I can't pretend to be a purist, and perhaps each seemed better than it would have in the company of peer wines with which to compare, but they seemed very nice indeed. Would almost give one the dangerous impression that one can buy just any old reisling, put it away for 8-9 years, and end up with something well above average.
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Rahsaan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:56 pm

Jenise wrote:Would almost give one the dangerous impression that one can buy just any old reisling, put it away for 8-9 years, and end up with something well above average.


That is a dangerous impression.

Although for all the talk about German riesling being under appreciated by Americans, I am constantly impressed by the dozens and dozens of high quality producers that are available here thanks to crusading importers, which of course skews the likelihood of finding something well above average.

That said, all those older Schonborn wines that are often available are true examples of mediocre aged riesling (should you want to put it to the test). And there are many others I often see as well..
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Martin Barz » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:50 pm

WOW, congratulation Jenise. Künstler and his "Hölle" is one of my favourite dry Riesling. :D
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Jenise » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:28 pm

Martin Barz wrote:WOW, congratulation Jenise. Künstler and his "Hölle" is one of my favourite dry Riesling. :D


So I did stumble over an especially good one, then? I must have learned (and then, obviously, forgotten) that long ago when I moved them into the regular cellar. Do you typically age them like this?
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by David M. Bueker » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:36 am

Both wines sound like they were performing as should be expected. At 8 years of age a dry kabinett is likely to be devloping an autumnal set of flavors. Kunstler is a very good (and somewhat underappreciated) producer, with Grans-Fassian practically (and wrongly) ignored.

Well done on the selections and the notes. Don't kick yourself on the 2000, as it was a somewhat dodgy vintage & I would never have bought more than one bottle myself without tasting to be sure the wine was sound.
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Re: WTN: Like Night and Day, Two Reislings

by Jenise » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:53 pm

David M. Bueker wrote: Don't kick yourself on the 2000, as it was a somewhat dodgy vintage & I would never have bought more than one bottle myself without tasting to be sure the wine was sound.


Ah, you finally found my BB (Bueker Bait). And I always say that about killing myself, but once a day or so passes and I'm out from under the spell I really don't. The bigger picture is that I buy wines like this to learn, and I hold them to learn, and I love having a cellar with a very large selection from which to select and have the opportunity to be pleasantly surprised. Yes, it also means I get some dogs but the fun part is not knowing what to expect.
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