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WTN: Burgs, old CA, strip club wines and more in NYC

by Dale Williams » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:15 am

Last night SOBER met in midtown, in Craig's apartment. Typical NYC apartment, so he had to be inventive with seating, but a pleasant and informative evening.

All wines were blind, even the greeting wine. A lighter framed bubbly, just a hint of sugar, fairly low acid, bubbles dissipate fairly fast. Dan and Cathleen quickly pegged it as not Champagne. Some suggestion of Loire, but didn't seem Chenin-ish to me. I wondered if it could be Italian, not Franciacortia but something like the Giacosa spumante. Nope, it's French. It turns out to be a Cremant de Bourgogne, the Scores Blanc de Blancs. Yes, the now defunct strip club's house bubbly. Once $250 in the club, I think Craig said he got for under $10. B-/C+

First flight was whites. These suffered a bit from being in kitchen while oven was on, they all seemed rather low acid to me, but think that was mostly temp.

#1 This was a bit unexpressive at first, but gradually unwound. White pit fruit, some mineral, light oak notes. Fairly advanced, I'd drink these soon. 1999 R & V Dauvissat "Les Clos" Chablis Grand Cru B/B+

#2 Most aromatic nose at first, flowers, melons, and a note someone calls vinyl. On the ripe/tropical end, but nice. 2001 Raveneau "Butteaux" Chablis 1er. B

#3 Smokey nose (someone calls ashtray, but not dirty to me), some woody notes, ripe white fruit. 2001 R & V Dauvissat " La Forest" Chablis 1er. B

I think group liked a bit more than I did, maybe more experienced at tasting a bit warmer. Certainly I blew the oak call on the Forest.

First Red Flight (I think everyone got to Burgundy quickly)

#1 Red fruit, minty, herby. Seems to put on a little weight in glass. 1988 Drouhin Charmes-Chambertin. B+

#2 This is pretty tight and ungiving at first. As it opens, earth and darker fruit than its flightmates. 1988 Drouhin Latricieres-Chambertin B+/A-

#3 Rather exotic nose- sandalwood, spice, slightly lifted. Dan made a guess of Dujac, which I thought was on target aroma-wise. Nice on the palate, but this started to fade while the other two were picking up steam. 1988 Bouree Charmes-Chambertin A- at first, though it faded.

None of these seemed particularly tannic to me, I think all but the biggest '88s are in a nice place now


Second Red Flight
#1 Red and black fruit, some tobacco and earth, someone guesses Graves, which seems reasonable to me. No, the 1978 Burgess Vintage Selection Cabernet Sauvignon. B+/A-

#2 A little tight, ripe cassis fruit and some lead pencil. Some light herbal notes. 1983 Lafite Rothschild B+

Third Red Flight
#1 Light color, red fruits, a little hint of VA, some tarry/earthy notes. I guessed older Barolo, but Craig says it's French. Some spice, balsamic vinegar, good length. 1969 Maison Leroy Echezeaux B+

#2 Ripe cherries, earth and mushrooms, a little soy note. Quite tasty, if a tad short on finish. 1977 Joseph Swan Sonoma Pinot Noir B+

Not blind:
1997 Fonseca Vintage Port
Raisins, caramel, kirsch, cassis, vanilla. I'm no good at making any judgements re young Ports, I like this but have no real clue how it stacks up against others.

1995 Kracher Grande Cuvée Trockenbeerenauslese #12
I have some friends who love Kracher, I see the quality but the style doesn't usually mesh well with my palate, I find them a bit heavy/cloying. But this is a bit of a revelation, with a solid core of acidity giving it real backbone. Candied apples and apricot, honey, molasses, but with a citric brightness. I wish I could have stayed for a second taste of this, but the train called. A-

Very interesting lineup, fun evening, Craig did an admirable job in a comparatively small space.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
 
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Re: WTN: Burgs, old CA, strip club wines and more in NYC

by Brian K Miller » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:29 pm

Wow. 30 year old California Pinot Noir!
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Re: WTN: Burgs, old CA, strip club wines and more in NYC

by Dale Williams » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:17 pm

yeah, passed the '78 Hanzell as the oldest US PN I've had. Not sure many (any?) these days will last as long!
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Re: WTN: Burgs, old CA, strip club wines and more in NYC

by John Treder » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:22 pm

Well, the '77 is a Joseph Swan wine, not a Rod Berglund one. But he does appreciate ageable PNs. I think some of the Great Oak vineyard wines may manage. I only have a couple of bottles, but from the tasting room I'm thinking that 10 years is about the first test time.
These wines make the '98 vintage in Sonoma County seem soft and approachable.

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