Jenise
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Dale Williams
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Jenise
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Covert wrote:Thanks, Jenise.
I am slowly gravitating to finding St-Esteph to be my favorite Bordeaux appellation. For years, I have asked myself which I like best. They are all wonderful and have such beguiling indicators of their respective typicities. I like the delicacy and intellectually acetic interest of St-Esteph. There is a is a suggestion of struggle in their expression with at the same time a hedonistic celebration of the effort - or somesuch.
Jenise
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David M. Bueker
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Jenise wrote: I'm a little surprised by the word delicacy used for Ste. Estephes. I find it to be one of the heavier handed appellations. But it IS the appellation most likely to deliver that funky-earthy thing you love, so your ardor is entirely understandable.
Bill Spohn
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
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David M. Bueker
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Bill Spohn wrote:
Mouth ripping? Never, unless you are drinking much too young.
Bill Spohn
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
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David M. Bueker wrote:Bill Spohn wrote:
Mouth ripping? Never, unless you are drinking much too young.
If only I had any St. Estephe wines that were well aged.
Bill Spohn wrote:And if you want them, look for things like the 75 Calon Segur, 89 or 90 Cos Labory, 86 Haut Marbuzet, 82, 86 or 89 Meyney............cheap like borscht and ready to roll.
Bill Spohn
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Jenise
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Bill Spohn wrote:
I think I've only had this particular wine once, and it is a lower range sort of forgettable house, but the fact that the wine showed so well is commendable. I wouldn't go out and serch for more vintages though.
James Dietz
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Jenise
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James Dietz wrote:Ok, Ms. Stone.. just bid for one... what other '86s do you like??
Dale Williams
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Jenise wrote: Grand Puy Lacoste, Mouton, Pontet Canet, Gruaud Larose and Meyney. All are great. Also have a Smith Haut Lafite that I have not yet tasted, and I've had and enjoyed Lafite, Talbot and Chasse Spleen. Probably had others but can't remember them off the top of my head right now. Oh, we did have a Soutard which Bob immediately renamed F*tard, so you know how good that wasn't.
Bill Spohn
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Jenise
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Dale Williams wrote:
Nice list. Have you had the Pontet Canet? Not great rep that period, but I've enjoyed the '82. Mouton, Lafite, and Margaux are great, and the Cordier trio great values.
Not surprised the Soutard wasn't good. First off, I think '86 is much better in Medoc than on Right Bank. Soutard makes very old school, hard, need a lot of time St Emilion. When you combine the house style with the tannic vintage style, not a recipe for success. But I like Soutard at 20+ years in ripe vintages.
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