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David Creighton
Wine guru
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
David Creighton
Wine guru
1217
Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
David Creighton wrote:tim york's geography of loire vineyards leaves some out on both ends and in the middle. beyond Cosne, the vineyards as far south as Cote du Forez are considered part of the Loire region. (also, Roannaises, Auvergne, St. Pourcain and Chateaumeillant). in the middle, there is Poitou. and beyond nantes, there is the Vendee. Fiefs Vendiens has been elevated to full AOC status i believe.
David Creighton wrote:well, dan, noble joue of course is not a grape but and appellation that is by their description a 'gris'; but since the gris part comprises 20% or less, i'd say it was a rose, technically. granted it is light - but no lighter than some provence rose's. noble joue blends pinot noir, pinot meunier and pinot gris.
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:As I open a Saumur Blanc from the well-known local cooperative, I thought of the following article where Jamie Goode questions Chenin Blanc.....>
http://www.wineanorak.com/wineblog/aust ... ome-chenin
I do not think my Saumur comes close to Jamie`s 3 descriptions!!
Last night, cracked open my last Champalou.
N/V Champalou Brut Vouvray.
Typical apple mineral flavors. Bright and bubbly with pear, apple and peach. Has cellared nicely for 3 yrs.
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34433
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:Opened the 2002 Domaine des Baumard Savennieres yesterday, and while it had a lot of typical Chenin elements it was overshadowed by a heavily oxidative set of aromas and flavors. The color was also rather dark. I bought it on release from a good source, so unless the NE USA distributor is cooking these I would have to say premox.
Bruce K wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Opened the 2002 Domaine des Baumard Savennieres yesterday, and while it had a lot of typical Chenin elements it was overshadowed by a heavily oxidative set of aromas and flavors. The color was also rather dark. I bought it on release from a good source, so unless the NE USA distributor is cooking these I would have to say premox.
Sorry about that. I opened a bottle six months ago and it was terrific with no oxidation evident at all. But my experience with earlier vintages of the regular Baumard Savennieres (opened after 8-10 years) has been that about half were oxidative and half not -- from the same year.
Tim York wrote:Bruce K wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Opened the 2002 Domaine des Baumard Savennieres yesterday, and while it had a lot of typical Chenin elements it was overshadowed by a heavily oxidative set of aromas and flavors. The color was also rather dark. I bought it on release from a good source, so unless the NE USA distributor is cooking these I would have to say premox.
Sorry about that. I opened a bottle six months ago and it was terrific with no oxidation evident at all. But my experience with earlier vintages of the regular Baumard Savennieres (opened after 8-10 years) has been that about half were oxidative and half not -- from the same year.
I also have had premoxed bottles from Savennières (Ch.d'Epiré) but never from Vouvray. Any Reason or just luck?
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Another pointer that goat cheese is the main match for Sancerre! Nicos there in UK will approve Tim.
David Creighton
Wine guru
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
David Creighton wrote:dan, sorry i haven't replied but have been out of town. i like both the noble joue and the reuilly gris. never seen a noble joue in the US but have seen the reuilly. there are other under the radar things that i like too - jasnieres and coteaux du loir. the only chateaumeillant i've had was not very good; but i'm sue there must be some decent ones. a good place to taste the odd stuff is Vitiloire held at the end of may in Tours.
Tim York wrote:Note on Jasnières: this appellation is situated in the North of Touraine close to Le Loir river, which is a northerly tributary of La Loire.
David Creighton
Wine guru
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
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