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Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Robin Garr » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:20 am

The title says it all: We'll taste and talk about Sangiovese from anywhere in the world this month, and also zero in on all the reds of Tuscany, Sangiovese-based, full Sangiovese or non-traditional Super Tuscans and Baby Tuscans. Enjoy!
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by David M. Bueker » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:29 pm

The 2010 Felsina Fontalloro was just delicious tonight. All red fruit and dusty herbs, it made a great dinner wine. Lots of depth, so I will be aging my other bottles for a few years.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by JC (NC) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:44 pm

I may be opening a Fontalloro from 2003 or 2007 during this month. I think sometime next week I will open a Brunello di Montalcino.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Carl Eppig » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:44 pm

2010 Rosa dell Olmo, Barbaresco DOCG ($10.99 Trader Joe's, Alcohol level 13.5%). Not the best Barbaresco in the world, but well worth the price. It gives a nice ruby red to garnet color to the eye, violets and vanilla to the nose and up front, a pleasant balance with smooth tannin in the middle, and a lingering finish.

For us this is the perfect foil for a pasta meal. This time we matched it with Penne in Pesto and broiled Italian Sausages loaded with fennel. Yum!
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Dave R » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:47 pm

I like this theme, Robin, and no one has to twist my arm to open a few bottles of Brunello.

You mentioned "Baby Tuscans". I am familiar with Super Tuscans but what is a Baby Tuscan?
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Dale Williams » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:06 pm

Dave R wrote:You mentioned "Baby Tuscans". I am familiar with Super Tuscans but what is a Baby Tuscan?


Dave, not Robin but Baby Tuscan is a term folks use for IGT Tuscans that are aimed at a less expensive market. Things like Antinori Santa Cristina, Viticcio Bere, Monte Antico, etc. Crognolo is one of the in-betweens- maybe a teen Tuscan.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Tim York » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:36 pm

Carl Eppig wrote:2010 Rosa dell Olmo, Barbaresco DOCG ($10.99 Trader Joe's, Alcohol level 13.5%). Not the best Barbaresco in the world, but well worth the price. It gives a nice ruby red to garnet color to the eye, violets and vanilla to the nose and up front, a pleasant balance with smooth tannin in the middle, and a lingering finish.

For us this is the perfect foil for a pasta meal. This time we matched it with Penne in Pesto and broiled Italian Sausages loaded with fennel. Yum!


Nice TN, Carl, but Tuscan or Sangiovese....?
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Carl Eppig » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:18 pm

Tim York wrote:Nice TN, Carl, but Tuscan or Sangiovese....?


Like Barolo, Barbaresco is made from Sangiovese.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by David M. Bueker » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:37 pm

Carl Eppig wrote:
Tim York wrote:Nice TN, Carl, but Tuscan or Sangiovese....?


Like Barolo, Barbaresco is made from Sangiovese.


No. Both are made from Nebbiolo in Piedmont, not Tuscany.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Carl Eppig » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:56 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:
Carl Eppig wrote:
Tim York wrote:Nice TN, Carl, but Tuscan or Sangiovese....?


Like Barolo, Barbaresco is made from Sangiovese.


No. Both are made from Nebbiolo in Piedmont, not Tuscany.


Sorry, don't what I was thinking!
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by David M. Bueker » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:21 pm

You were just enjoying the wine! :mrgreen:
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by JC (NC) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:15 pm

I plan to open a Brunello later this week. Suggestions for food pairings?
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Dave R » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:45 pm

JC (NC) wrote:I plan to open a Brunello later this week. Suggestions for food pairings?


Grilled venison. A perfect match.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by JC (NC) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:53 pm

Okay. Other than grilled venison.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Robin Garr » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:34 pm

JC (NC) wrote:Okay. Other than grilled venison.

JC, the usual companion to Brunello or other high-quality Sangiovese is beef. A good rare steak or roast beast. It's a match made in heaven.

If you or a guest prefer to avoid red meat, grilled chicken will work. If you want to keep it plant-based, something cheesy. Vegans are pretty much out of luck, although maybe something showing off deeply browned onions and red lentils might work.
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Joy Lindholm » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:29 am

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JC (NC) wrote:Okay. Other than grilled venison.

JC, the usual companion to Brunello or other high-quality Sangiovese is beef. A good rare steak or roast beast. It's a match made in heaven.

If you or a guest prefer to avoid red meat, grilled chicken will work. If you want to keep it plant-based, something cheesy. Vegans are pretty much out of luck, although maybe something showing off deeply browned onions and red lentils might work.


The acidity in Sangiovese makes it a nice companion to tomato-based sauces or stews. There is a lot you could do there, meat or no meat. I love Sangiovese with pizza.

I have a Vino Nobile I am looking forward to opening this month, if I can ever get over this darn flu!
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Robin Garr » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:25 am

Joy Lindholm wrote:The acidity in Sangiovese makes it a nice companion to tomato-based sauces or stews. There is a lot you could do there, meat or no meat. I love Sangiovese with pizza.

In principle I agree, Joy, and with a basic Chianti - which I love - I couldn't agree more. When I've got a Brunello on the table, though, I tend to move toward more upscale dinner choices, even though spaghetti with "gravy" or a pepperoni pizza would certainly work.

I have a Vino Nobile I am looking forward to opening this month, if I can ever get over this darn flu!

Get well soon! :)
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:35 am

I have never understood the need for "elevated" food with a great bottle of wine. If the match works have at it! :mrgreen:
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Carl Eppig » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:38 pm

2010 Cantina del Grifone “1967” Toscana IGT, ($6.99 at Trader Joe’s, and 12.5% alcohol level). This wine is 85% Sangiovese, 10% Cabernet Sauvignon, and 5% Syrah. It was absolutely delicious with our Wednesday night meal of Penne in Fresh Tomato Sauce and fennel loaded Italian Sausage. Yum!
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by JC (NC) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:06 pm

I do eat meat but am not fond of venison. A steak sounds like a good choice and I will buy one today at the grocery store. Thanks for the suggestions.

(In reference to the above question on what to pair with a Brunello)
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by MichaelaRodeno » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:54 pm

For a discussion of World Sangiovese and Tuscan reds, there isn't much non-Italian Sangiovese noted here. I invite you to check out the website of a small California producer. Villa Ragazzi Sangiovese was the first planted in Napa Valley in 1985 and is regularly described as "possibly the best made in CA/the U.S." http://www.villaragazziwine.com
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by Jon Leifer » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:35 pm

will confess that I never heard of Villa Ragazzi and have never seen a review of their wines..I have been quite happy over the years with sangios from Unti and Seghesio, both well established Sonoma based wineries
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La Spinetta "Nero di Casanova" Toscana Sangiovese

by Robin Garr » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:56 pm

La Spinetta 2009 "Nero di Casanova" Toscana Sangiovese ($19.99)

Made by the respected Italian wine maker Giorgio Rivetti, this blend of 95% Sangiovese with 5% Colorino, a regional grape.It's blackish-purple in color, as the name "Nero" suggests, fading to garnet at the edge. Good Tuscan scent, black cherries and dried fruit, adds more than a whiff of warm spice. Flavors follow the nose, a big mouth full of black fruit shaped by firm, structural acidity and appropriate 13.5% alcohol. There's a touch of tannin, but it's resolving, not rough or harsh. Good food wine, well balanced and still showing good fruit. U.S. importer: Indigenous Selections LLC, Fort Lauderdale, Fla. (Jan. 8, 2015)

FOOD MATCH: We resolved the red-meat or red sauce question in favor of pasta: Spaghetti with Italian-style sausage and garlicky tomato sauce; thin shavings from a block of Parmigiana-Reggiano made a delightful pairing for the second glass.

WHEN TO DRINK: You can certainly drink it now, but my impression is that a few more years in a good cellar would do it no harm. More recent vintages have already reached the market, and they should probably be held for a while.

VALUE: I got a good buy on this older bottle at $15, but I'd be delighted to pay an upper-teens price for a recent vintage. An $18 U.S. average reported on Wine-Searcher.com, but reported prices cover a surprising range from $15 to $24, so buyer, beware.
http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/la-sp ... g_site=WLP

WEB LINK:
Click for the winery's good, English-language account of its Casanova property in Tuscany:
http://www.la-spinetta.com/casanova.html
The importer's fact sheet on La Spinetta is here:
http://www.indigenousselections.com/laspinetta.html

FIND THIS WINE ONLINE:
Find vendors and check prices for La Spinetta 2009 "Nero di Casanova" on Wine-Searcher.com:
http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/la-sp ... g_site=WLP
For U.S. wine lovers, here's a clickable map of distributors by state:
http://www.indigenousselections.com/distribution.html
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Re: Wine Focus for January: World Sangiovese, Tuscan reds

by JC (NC) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:08 am

2007 POGGIO ANTICO ALTERO BRUNELLO DI MONTALCINO. 13,5% abv. Four years of total aging--two in 500-liter French tonneaux and two in the bottle. Reddish-purple color; semi-opaque. Some pungency. Effusive aroma of dark cherry. On the palate the dark cherry again, some length and a tannic bite on the finish. On the second evening, the tannins seemed softer, more in the order of fuzzy tannins. The wine seemed less strident on the whole and I liked it better. It's probably better to cellar it for several more years or decant it a few hours before dinner if opening it in the near future. I didn't assign a CellarTracker rating because I don't have much experience with Brunellos and not much basis for comparison. I drank this with broiled steak and baked potato.
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