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When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by James Roscoe » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:46 pm

Here's a question for all the Spanish wine experts. I have had a few older Spanish wines from the early 1990's and some from the later 1990's. I'm not a big fan of the newer wines. I read a lot about the modernization of Spanish wines. When did this take place? What is the problem? Why did they do it? (Am I asking too many questions?) Too many of the Spanish wines I've tasted recently taste like they could be from California. What's the deal? I await enlightenment.
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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by Rahsaan » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:50 pm

James Roscoe wrote:What is the problem? Why did they do it?


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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by JoePerry » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:05 pm

James Roscoe wrote:Here's a question for all the Spanish wine experts. I have had a few older Spanish wines from the early 1990's and some from the later 1990's. I'm not a big fan of the newer wines. I read a lot about the modernization of Spanish wines. When did this take place? What is the problem? Why did they do it? (Am I asking too many questions?) Too many of the Spanish wines I've tasted recently taste like they could be from California. What's the deal? I await enlightenment.


I guess you could say it started with Contino in the late 70's, by those standards the wines would be "modern" due to some forward thinking. Of course, modern then was simply choosing to make a Reserva in lieu of a Gran Reserva (rather than in addition to) and being a little more plush. Now, modern is defined by 100% new small French barriques, late harvests, 100% Tempranillo or Tempranillo and Cab*, later Harvests, and "other" less forthcoming methods.

The change really started to take place in 1991 and went from there. I can't think of any Rioja or RdD producer prior to 1991 who was modern-modern. I think 1994 will be remembered as the "coming out" vintage for modern wines. That was the first great vintage for wineries to unveil their expensive heavy-glass bottles and get a lot of attention from Parker, Spec and the like.

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*instead of a blend with Graciano, Mazuelo, Garnacha or even Viura/Garnacha Blanca
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Thank you

by James Roscoe » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:04 pm

I am much more enlightened. I love being able to ask a question and get answers. Will any Spanish producers realize the error of their ways and go back to the kind of product that makes Spanish wine Spanish and not Californian?
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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by JoePerry » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:23 pm

Just keep buying R Lopez de Heredia and La Rioja Alta. :D
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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by James Roscoe » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:14 pm

Thanks Joe, I'll look for them. Do you know who imports them into the US and if they get to DC? I assume they would. McArthurs or Calvert will probably carry them.
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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by JoePerry » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:49 pm

Polaner Selections, Mount Kisco NY

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Europvin U.S.A Oakland California

McArthurs should carry at least La Rioja Alta
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Re: When did Spanish wines become "modern"?

by James Roscoe » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:03 pm

Joe,
Thanks for the info. Stay cool.
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