but you seem to be saying I can't state my position because others have a different one.
Oh, no. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that there is a certain weight carried by usage that doesn't coincide with your particular accepted usage (and yes, by "you" I mean the UK/EU. A simple blind assertion by the EU that such is so does not necessarily mean that such is indeed so. Eventually even the most autocratic and bureucratic of governmental bodies succumbs to the will of the people, and to change.
I am not arguing with you about what the EU/UK maintain by their dictates, Peter. I'm simply saying that doesn't make it the final arbiter. Or even, perhaps the most appropriate one. The argument that "This word is ours because we used it first, so we can say it means whatever we want to say it means and you can't use it, or disagree with us" is questionable to me. The word will be defined by how people choose to use it, and that may well be (probably will be) not at all how the bureucrats (get it? burEUcrats?} decree it to be. Or not to be, I guess.
But , no, I'm certainly not denying your opinion and your right to state it. Heck, that's what makes this place go round and round.
You are quite correct that others have over the years used claret to mean other things. But others have used Champagne and Burgundy to mean other things and yet that they should be protected isn't being argued against (Hell if anyone wants to, please start another thread, cos this one is busy right now)
Um...bit of faulty reasoning there isn't it, when you equate two things that you clearly say are not the same two things? You Artful Dodger, you.
And when you say that only a small group of wine lovers in jolly old blighty use the term, that is not the issue; the point is that the word when applied to wine has that specific legal meaning in the EU. So when I state it is red Bordeaux, I am stating what UK and EU law says.
Amd my point in return is that a small, and pointedly regional/parochial, group cannot prevent usage from occuring as it will. And I seriously question, strictly in the sense of claret as a word, that it has any authority to attempt to do so. Not that that has ever stopped an official body of 'crats. , mind you.
Okay, you guys passed a "law". It's your law, not mine. And in the grand American tradition, I'll choose to obey the law only if it suits me.