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WTN: A Passel of Nebbiolos..(long/boring)

by TomHill » Mon May 29, 2017 8:32 pm

At BacchusBadBoys Thurs (5/25/17) we tried Some Nebbiolos:
1. BonnyDoon Nebbiolo Ca'delSolo Estate Vnyd/Monterey (14.4%) 2009: Med.light color; rather strong tarry/
road tar/pungent light floral/rose petal/lilacs very fragrant bit oldNebb lovely nose; rather tart/lean/
tight/austere rather pungent/tarry bit cedary/oldRed light floral/dried rose petal flavor w/ light slight
bitey tannins; long rather tarry/pungent slight floral/dried rose petal finish w/ light/bitey tannins;
a reasonable expression of an older Nebb; seems a bit old before its time. $45.00
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2. Pizzili Nebbiolo SantaBarbaraCnty (13.45%) Camarillo 2015: Light color; rather weird burnt/charred/smokey/
funky strong stewed fruit/strawberry compote slight metallic/burning metal slight mousey nose; soft strong
woody/burnt/charred rather stewed fruit/strawberry compote pungent/burning metal flavor w/ light gentle
tannins; med.long stewed fruit/strawberry compote bit burning metal/pungent burnt/charred/oak/woodsmoke
finish w/ light gentle tannins; a very weird wine w/ no Nebb character and strange stewed strawberry
character. $36.00 (WE)
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3. Harrington Nebbiolo Berardo + LunaMatta Vnyd/TempletonGap/PasoRobles (14.2%; www.harringtonwine.com/) 2012:
Med.light color; very strong floral/lilacs/rose petal/Nebb very fragrant slight earthy/tarry lovely perfumed
nose; quite tart/austere strong floral/rose petal/lilacs/Nebb light earthy flavor w/ modest hard tannins;
very long/lingering floral/rose petal/Nebb/lilacs slight earthy/tarry/pungent finish w/ some hard/firm/ripe
tannins; speaks strongly of the floral aspects of Nebb. $30.00
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4. Harrington Terrane Nebbiolo PasoRobles (LunaMatta + Berardo vnyds; No SO2 added; 14.1%; 42 cs) 2012[/b]: Med.light
bit lighter color; strong floral/lilacs/rose petal/Nebb somewhat herbal rather older/cedary more Italianate/
strange nose; bit softer/lusher some oldNebb/oldGattinara bit dried rose petal/lilacs/Nebb bit earthy/pungent
flavor w/ lighter/smoother tannins; very long bit aged ItalNebb some dried rose petal/Nebb/floral slight earthy/
pungent finish w/ light tannins; seems to show less perfumed Nebb fruit and more of a slightly aged Nebb
character. $30.00
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5. Castelli Nebbiolo Estate/GreenVlly/RRV/SonomaCnty (Dry Farmed/Fukuoaka; U/U; 46 mo. in
neutral Fr.oak; www.CastelliVineyards) Emilio&Laura Castelli/Sebastapol 2011
: Med.color; beautiful floral/
rosepetal/lilacs/violets/Nebb very aromatic light pungent/tar/herbal terrifically aromatic nose; lightly tart
very strong floral/Nebb/violets/rose petal light pungent/road tar light herbal/earthy bit complex flavor w/
some firm/ripe tannins; very long/lingering quite perfumed/floral/Nebb/violets/rose petal/spicy light road tar/
herbal bit complex finish w/ ample ripe/round tannins; this wine showed the soaring/ethereal aromatics that you
get out of a great Nebb; a beautiful expression of Nebb in Calif at a great price. $30.00
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6. Rovellotti DOCG: Ghemme (13.5%; NeilRosenthalImpts) Chiaso dei Pomi 2008: Med.light color w/ slight bricking;
mostly pungent/road tar/tarry light floral/lilacs/Nebb fairly perfumed nose; quite tart light floral/lilacs/
violets somewhat pungent/tarry some earthy/dusty rather hard flavor w/ modest hard/bitey/astringent tannins;
long lightly floral/lilacs/rose petal/Nebb fairly pungent/tarry bit complex finish w/ ample hard/astringent
tannins; more of the road tar part of the Nebb spectrum and pretty hard as nails; needs age. $46.00 (G/MT)
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7. Nebbiolo di Carema DOC: Carema Riserva (13%; ToscoImports) Carema 2011: Med.light color w/ some bricking;
beautiful floral/fragrant/lilacs/rose petal very perfumedlight road tar bit oak/cedary lovely fragrant nose;
lightly tart beautiful floral/lilacs/violets/Nebb/rose petal slight earthy/dusty light road tar/pungent/tarry
very slight bretty flavor w/ modest smooth tannins; very long/lingering very strong floral/Nebb/violets/rose
petal very light road tar/pungent very slight bretty lovely finish w/ some smooth/ripe tannins; a classic very
perfumed/aromatic Carema Nebb; quite a lovely Nebb at a great price. $26.00 (EVN)
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8. Generaj Bric Aut DOCG: Roero (13.5%; ToscoImports; www.generaj.it/generaj/en/) Generaj Gian Paolo
Viglione/Monta 2011
: Med.color; very slight pungent/burning metal lightly floral/rose petal/Nebb/violets more
earthy/rustic light pungent/road tar very attractive nose; lightly tart fairly rich/lush/ripe some floral/Nebb/
rose petal/violets very light tarry flavor w/ modest ripe/bit bitey tannins; very long ripe/lush some floral/
Nebb/rose petal/violets/lilacs very light pungent/tarry bit earthy somewhat rustic finish w/ some ripe/rich
tannins; less floral & bit bigger/rounder expression of Nebb. $30.00 (EVN)
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9. NinoNegri LeTense Sassella DOCG: Valtellina Superiore (100% Chiavennasca) Chiuro 2011: Med.light color; classic
earthy/Nebb/pungent light floral/lilacs/Nebb/rose petal quite fragrant classic Valtelline Nebb nose; some
tart/acidic quite perfumed/lilacs/violets/Nebb bit earthy fairly rich light pungent/tarry flavor w/ light
hard/angular tannins; very long/lingering some tart fairly rich/full/earthy light floral/lilacs/violets/Nebb
very slight tarry/pungent finish w/ modest hard/ripe tannins; a pretty classic/straightforward expression of
Valtelline Nebb but lacks the soaring fragrance I like in Nebb. $34.00 (CB)
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10. Palladino Dd'OCG: Barolo (14.5%; BlairTaylorSlctn/enotec Imports/Denver) 2011: Med.light color; very fragrant/
perfumed slight volatile some floral/lilacs/Nebb/violets very slight tarry attractive nose; rather tart/lean/
austere somewhat floral/lilacs/violets/Nebb rather lightweight flavor w/ some hard/bitey/austere/astringent
tannins; very long quite tart/austere/lean somewhat floral/Nebb/violets/lilacs lightweight finish w/ some
hard/austere/bitey tannins; a rather lightweight/pretty foursquare mostly floral expression of Barolo.
$49.00 (SFW&S)
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11. Castelli Nebbiolo Estate/GreenVlly/RRV/SonomaCnty (Dry Farmed/Fukuoaka; U/U; 46 mo. in
neutral Fr.oak) Emilio&Laura Castelli/Sebastapol 2012
: Med.dark color; very strong very aromatic/perfumed floral/Nebb/violets/rose petal bit more grapey very light tarry/pungent very slight toasty/oak beautiful nose; lightly tart bit richer/lusher/grapier very strong floral/Nebb/violets/rose petal very slight pungent/tar
very light toasty/oak complex flavor w/ ample ripe/firm/round tannins; very long/lingering very strong floral/
Nebb/rose petal/violets very light toasty/oak slight tarry/herbal/pungent complex finish w/ ample round/firm
tannins; a slight preference to the '11; a beautiful very perfumed example of Calif Nebb at a great price.
$32.00
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Alt-stuff from TheBloodyPulpit:
1. Harrington: Bryan makes a number of wines under the Terrane label. These are wines made w/ no SO2 additions,
though a proprietary Swiss anti-oxideant product is used. Details are on his WebSite: www.harringtonwine.com/.
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2. NinoNegri: At one time, the NinoNegris were some of the best of the Valtelline Nebbs. Last week I had two
NinoNegri wines, Quadrio '11 and Sfursat '12. They were two of the dullest expressions of Valtelline Nebb I can
recall. This NinoNegri Sassella was far/far better and (sorta) restored my faith in NinoNegri. But it's
unlikely I'll bother to try any others in the future.
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3. This was a tasting designed to expose my group to an alternate expression of Nebbiolo, mostly avoiding the
B/B-paradigm. The wines went over quite well. Obviously no very high-end nor old stuff here. My, and most others,
favorite of the night were the two Castellis. The Generaj was fairly close behinf. The Castelli '12 was served
as a mystery wine by Larry. I didn't pick it up as a Castelli until I went back and compared them. I thought it
might be a mid-high end B/B but the tannins seemed out of whack; they wern't the searing tannins you often get
from those wines. The NinoNegri and the Carema were also well-liked, as was the Harrington.
Of the two Castelli's, I very slightly preferred the '12. Emilio's Nebb, at the NEB#x events and public
tastings has consistently been one of the favorites. One of the ugliest vnyds in Calif (he farms by Fukuoako),
but you can't argue about the Nebbs that come from it.
Obviously, except for the first two, these Nebbs would benefit from some additional age. What was striking
was the differing textures in the tannins. The Calif Nebbs, as do the Valtelline ones, though ample, consistently
have a rounder/smoother/riper level of tannin and not the screechy/searing/hard tannins of B/B/Langhe. Of course,
the ardent fans of B/B (of which I am not one) just dismiss those complaints with the pablum that you just have
to give them some age. So be it.
Tom

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