Patchen Markell
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am
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Patchen Markell wrote:Ka' Mancine 2015 Rossese di Dolceacqua, "Beragna" (Liguria). $26.00. The paradigm of a straightforward weeknight Italian red, with brisk, unadulterated red and blue fruit and a little earth; the edges turn inward at the end and the wine tails off somewhat quickly, but it's tasty and refreshing with dinner. It's a little more expensive than, say, Chianti Classicos that might play a comparable role in the repertoire, but you don't see a lot of Ligurian reds on the shelves, and I suspect production is a lot smaller here than in Toscana, so I was very happy to find this one -- indeed, it makes me think I might go back for another bottle, and make some cioppino to go with it.
Patchen Markell
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am
Ithaca, New York
Patchen Markell wrote:Hmmm, Wikipedia says it's the same as Grillo and implies it's only called Rossese Bianco in Liguria? I dunno, you're the ampelographer around here. I've had a couple of Sicilian Grillos, but I don't remember thinking they were terribly exciting. Maybe I'd feel differently if I'd had them in Sicily!
Meanwhile, I see that Rossese di Dolceacqua is the same grape as Tibouren in France*, of which I've had a couple lately (red and rosé). In fact, the reps for Clos Cibonne seem to be working overtime in Chicago -- not only did I see their wines in one shop and on two restaurant wine lists after being totally unfamiliar with them before 2017, I know at least one Chicago somm visited Clos Cibonne earlier this month.
*Tibouren in Tiburon, on the other hand, sounds like my cuppa cappucino.
Brian K Miller
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
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Patchen Markell wrote:Meanwhile, I see that Rossese di Dolceacqua is the same grape as Tibouren in France*, of which I've had a couple lately (red and rosé). In fact, the reps for Clos Cibonne seem to be working overtime in Chicago --
TomHill wrote:Patchen Markell wrote:Hmmm, Wikipedia says it's the same as Grillo and implies it's only called Rossese Bianco in Liguria? I dunno, you're the ampelographer around here. I've had a couple of Sicilian Grillos, but I don't remember thinking they were terribly exciting. Maybe I'd feel differently if I'd had them in Sicily!
Meanwhile, I see that Rossese di Dolceacqua is the same grape as Tibouren in France*, of which I've had a couple lately (red and rosé). In fact, the reps for Clos Cibonne seem to be working overtime in Chicago -- not only did I see their wines in one shop and on two restaurant wine lists after being totally unfamiliar with them before 2017, I know at least one Chicago somm visited Clos Cibonne earlier this month.
*Tibouren in Tiburon, on the other hand, sounds like my cuppa cappucino.
Yup, Patchen....Grillo is supposedly the same thing. The 2-3 Grillos I've had from Sicily have been underwhelming.
But, like Vermentino from Sardinia vs. Liguria (Pigato), I would expect more from Ligurian Grillo/RossesseBianco.
I've had several of the French Tibouren and thought them rather good...but not as bright/lively as Rossese from Liquria,
Tom
Oliver McCrum
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Patchen Markell wrote:Ka' Mancine 2015 Rossese di Dolceacqua, "Beragna" (Liguria). $26.00. The paradigm of a straightforward weeknight Italian red, with brisk, unadulterated red and blue fruit and a little earth; the edges turn inward at the end and the wine tails off somewhat quickly, but it's tasty and refreshing with dinner. It's a little more expensive than, say, Chianti Classicos that might play a comparable role in the repertoire, but you don't see a lot of Ligurian reds on the shelves, and I suspect production is a lot smaller here than in Toscana, so I was very happy to find this one -- indeed, it makes me think I might go back for another bottle, and make some cioppino to go with it.
Patchen Markell
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am
Ithaca, New York
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