California wineries still family owned since 1977?

Delicato (3rd generation) & Peirano (4th generation)

[Jenise]

Peter, now there's something out of left field! Delicato--you made me look. And while yes, apparently, family owned and operated since 1924, and though they say what they do is "offers a portfolio of premium wines from a selection of the most desirable vineyards from notable California wine-growing regions"--no. Just no. They're not premium wines by any stretch of the imagination. Though still yes privately held and run by founder Gaspare's three sons, they are not a winery. They're a wine corporation corporation who make supermarket brands. Bota Box, for instance. I don't think anyone has any Black Stallion in their cellar.

Might be hilarious to show up with something like that and innocently ask, "Oh, that's not what you meant?"

“….and though they say what they do is "offers a portfolio of premium wines from a selection of the most desirable vineyards from notable California wine-growing regions"--no. Just no. They're not premium wines by any stretch of the imagination.”

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Salute

Let's be somewhat fair here/

I actually tasted at Black Stallion this summer. Pretty solid high end cabernet-single vineyard, varietally correct, not supermarket priced wines at all.

I agree with the overall point, but Black Stallion, at least, based on that tasting is better than too many high end artisanal cabs I have tried.

[Jenise]

Let's be somewhat fair here/

I actually tasted at Black Stallion this summer. Pretty solid high end cabernet-single vineyard, varietally correct, not supermarket priced wines at all.

I agree with the overall point, but Black Stallion, at least, based on that tasting is better than too many high end artisanal cabs I have tried.

I picked that name out of the air, it was either that or Gnarly Vines--I've never had the wine. Good defense.

I picked that name out of the air, it was either that or Gnarly Vines--I've never had the wine. Good defense.

Ah... Makes sense, then.

I think one reason few of us have Black Stallion is they don't distribute on a large scale. And the Delicatos certainly did not found the winery, it was picked up from the second ownership group, I believe.

However...across the road or so is Judd's Hill. That is still owned by the original family (Finkelstines). I know the founder just passed away recently, but I think his son? still runs the place.

I picked that name out of the air, it was either that or Gnarly Vines--I've never had the wine. Good defense.

Ah... Makes sense, then.

I think one reason few of us have Black Stallion is they don't distribute on a large scale. And the Delicatos certainly did not found the winery, it was picked up from the second ownership group, I believe.

However...across the road or so is Judd's Hill. That is still owned by the original family (Finkelstines). I know the founder just passed away recently, but I think his son? still runs the place.

You mean down the road-it's south. Judd is the sons name.