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Sue Courtney wrote:Are you seeing many Spanish wines with screwcap? I'm not sure if it is general worldwide or because the wines are coming into New Zealand where many of the younger generation drinkers don't own a corkscrew. Mostly on the cheaper wines. Like this one I had last the local wine shop where I write the tasting notes.
Tim York wrote:Sue Courtney wrote:Are you seeing many Spanish wines with screwcap? I'm not sure if it is general worldwide or because the wines are coming into New Zealand where many of the younger generation drinkers don't own a corkscrew. Mostly on the cheaper wines. Like this one I had last the local wine shop where I write the tasting notes.
I was surprised to pick up a Spanish wine under screwcap at a caviste in Caen. Neither Spain nor France are friendly towards screwcaps, which are generally associated by the consumer with cheap and nasty plonk. However, I'll probably have to wait a long time before I see another. For those who wish to sell into New Zealand, it obviously makes sense to provide screwcap closures.
Modern minded French (and possibly Spanish) producers know about the merits of screwcaps. I have heard Olivier Humbecht talking about them. But I think it will be a long time before more than a trickle of middle and upmarket bottlings appear on the domestic market with that closure.
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John S wrote:I bought a few bottles of this on closeout and I'm glad I did. A rather unusual region and blend (a grenache and cabernet blend from Tarragona), it was a very interesting wine, though certainly on the big, powerful side.
2010 Vinyes del Terrer (Joan Morell) Tarragona NUS del Terrer - Spain, Catalunya, Tarragona (2017-12-24)
This was a deep, big, ripe, concentrated wine with solid tannins that managed to stay out of over the top territory. The cabernet is the dominant grape at the moment, with lots of blackfruit flavours with a touch of minerality. Not showing much complexity now, I'll wait on my other two bottles for several years. (B+/A-).
Tim York:Côte Rôtie type freshness and elegance with Iberian generosity in a Bierzo Petalos from Palacios. Unless my memory of that first acquaintance is deceiving me, subsequent vintages of Petalos have become a lot more oaky as well as dearer.
win_fried wrote:Tim York:Côte Rôtie type freshness and elegance with Iberian generosity in a Bierzo Petalos from Palacios. Unless my memory of that first acquaintance is deceiving me, subsequent vintages of Petalos have become a lot more oaky as well as dearer.
Well, the Petalos recently has become one of our favourite quality quaffers. My wife said "we don't do this with food", so we opened a bottle accompanied just by some Gaeta black olives:
WTN: Descendentes de J. Palacios, Bierzo, Petalos 2015
Purple colour with carmesin reflexes at the rim. Nose of black fruit, cherry, black currant and pepper. Palate reveals a firm structure, still quite tannic; we find cherry, maraschino, almond and tobacco. The oak is somewhere in the background and the finish is short. Nevertheless very nice for a basic bottling.
It sounds as if I should take another look at Petalos in the 2015 vintage, if I see a bottle. That's not very likely in France; I passed one by on my last visit to Brussels because the asking price was >€20.
Tim York wrote:Thanks for that, win_fried. It sounds as if I should take another look at Petalos in the 2015 vintage, if I see a bottle. That's not very likely in France; I passed one by on my last visit to Brussels because the asking price was >€20.
Sue Courtney wrote:Tim York wrote:Thanks for that, win_fried. It sounds as if I should take another look at Petalos in the 2015 vintage, if I see a bottle. That's not very likely in France; I passed one by on my last visit to Brussels because the asking price was >€20.
I think we are all quite price conscious and wary of inflated prices. IMHO Spain is one country that produces very satisfying reds without having to break the piggy bank. I've not tried the Petalos but see the 2015 is selling here in NZ for $26, which puts in in the moderately expensive category. NZD$26 is equivalent to about €15 or USD$19 on todays exchange rate.
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Tim York wrote:Can anyone here point to significant differences between the wines of Rioja and those of Ribera del Duero, Vega Sicilia apart, which is unique? I can't; except that the equivalent does not seem to exist in Ribera del Duero of the traditional style of Rioja with relatively light body and colour, having had extensive ageing in mainly used American oak barrels. Perhaps the wines of Ribera may on average be fuller bodied
Ken Schechet wrote:Tim York wrote:Can anyone here point to significant differences between the wines of Rioja and those of Ribera del Duero, Vega Sicilia apart, which is unique? I can't; except that the equivalent does not seem to exist in Ribera del Duero of the traditional style of Rioja with relatively light body and colour, having had extensive ageing in mainly used American oak barrels. Perhaps the wines of Ribera may on average be fuller bodied
I'm no expert but I think the Ribera's are considerably fuller bodied, more robust, generally higher alcohol and, if you will, more "masculine". Rioja's to me are a little more floral, lighter, brighter and perhaps drier. In general they seem to have higher acidity. There are Rioja's that you could have with fish.
Jon Leifer wrote:2016 Santiago Ruiz..DO Rias Baixas...My daughter brought this one back from Spain for me last September..Back label provides some history about Senor Ruiz, when the winery was founded and where it is located but does not speak to the wine or grapes. Up front, the label provides a map locating the winery..I am thinking Albarino.. ..A little poking around via Google and Wine Searcher indicates that it is indeed an Albarino and is available here in USA.
That being said, this is a floral , full bodied white, stone fruit notes, primarily peach, custard as well and perhaps some minerality on the finish..A lovely mouthful..went very well with grilled chicken breast and Jasmine rice. While admittedly not an Albarino Maven, this may well be the best Albarino I have tasted, your mileage may vary.
Jon Leifer wrote:As Tom Hill might say..YUP..while Googling around , my wife found a note indicating that the wine was a blend tho primarily Albarino
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