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Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:I have always been a member of the "true" brigade!!
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David M. Bueker wrote:Sussreserve has largely gone the way of the dodo, except from crappy producers.
Howie Hart wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Sussreserve has largely gone the way of the dodo, except from crappy producers.
Not only do I disagree with this, so did you 12 years ago. http://forums.wineloverspage.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=944
TomHill wrote:Interesting article by JamieGoode, as linked in WineTerroirist:
WinesMustBeTrue
in which he argues that are wines should not taste "nice" or good, but they must taste "true".
I always sorta thought if the wine in the glass in front of me tasted "good", than that was all that was important. Doh....now I know that that's not the criteria that I should be using...it's supposed to taste "true".
This came up in the two Calif Picpouls I recently tried. I loved the TablasCreek Picpoul because it had this wonderful/powerful aromatics, the likes of which I'd never done did see'd in Picpoul. Alas, now Jamie tells me I should not like this wine because it's not "true"...it doesn't taste anything like a "true" Picpoul de Pinet. Me bad.
Carried to the logical extent, we should should not like Calif Picpoul, or Zin, or Cabernet, or PinotNoir. These are all fake varieties brought in from Europe....they do not taste "true". The only American wine we should like is Concord!! I guess??
Tom [stirthepot.gif]
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Steve Slatcher wrote:They are not questions I need worry about. What I need is a real choice in the wine market and a range of styles that I like.
Victorwine wrote:A ton has changed in the last 7-10 years. A ton.
This might be true for industrial mass produced wine. But the principles and practices behind winemaking has not changed much. Years ago a bunch of guys might have stood around twisting a mass of grapes in a cloth, today we use bladder presses. With the “Natural” wine movement and most people becoming sustainable, and much more conscious about "going green” some of the “old techniques” are coming back into favor.
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David M. Bueker wrote:Victorwine wrote:A ton has changed in the last 7-10 years. A ton.
This might be true for industrial mass produced wine. But the principles and practices behind winemaking has not changed much. Years ago a bunch of guys might have stood around twisting a mass of grapes in a cloth, today we use bladder presses. With the “Natural” wine movement and most people becoming sustainable, and much more conscious about "going green” some of the “old techniques” are coming back into favor.
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I was specifically referring to sussreserve. It has largely died out in the last decade plus.
Victorwine wrote:Back in 2013 Jamie Goode evaluates Gallo's Apothic Red (and IMHO he does a good and fair job in evaluating it).
Basically one could say it is made "true" to style. (I had my first taste of this wine yesterday).
http://www.wineanorak.com/wineblog/cali ... -red-wines
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