The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

A Question Of Ethics

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

ChaimShraga

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

663

Joined

Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:53 am

Location

Tel-Aviv, Israel

A Question Of Ethics

by ChaimShraga » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:14 am

Say you have a good friend who is a winemaker. A very good one, I might add. Say he replaced his distributor. And say the old distributor is selling off the stocks at ridiculous prices, probably as revenge.

It's okay to stock up, right? I mean, I even got free shipping.
Positive Discrimination For White Wines!
http://2GrandCru.blogspot.com
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Childless Cat Dad

Posts

35717

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by David M. Bueker » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:19 am

Happens all the time. It’s not revenge at all. It’s normal business, even if it feels a bit unsavory.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Mike_F

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

0

Joined

Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:56 pm

Location

Rehovot, Israel

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by Mike_F » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:34 am

Just give us the distributor's website and the name of the winery and we'll solve your dilemma...
Of course we must be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.”
Richard Dawkins
no avatar
User

Robin Garr

Rank

Forum Janitor

Posts

21837

Joined

Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:44 pm

Location

Louisville, KY

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by Robin Garr » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:03 am

True ethics would call you to buy up all the low-cost stock and give it back to your friend to re-sell at retail.

But true ethics is rarely seen in the wild. ;)
no avatar
User

Dale Williams

Rank

Compassionate Connoisseur

Posts

11744

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm

Location

Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by Dale Williams » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:11 am

I'll agree the most ethical thing you can do as a friend is buy all you can afford. Distributors do this to (1) clear their book of a product that has no future and (2)sometimes as a warning to other producers- "if you drop me you'll find your wine selling for less than your target price." As a friend the best thing you can do to help producer is to limit the time his/her wine in on open market for a discount price, which can affect public perception.
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Childless Cat Dad

Posts

35717

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by David M. Bueker » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:57 am

As an FYI, there have been many prominent wineries whose wines have been blown out when changing distributors.

I acquired a bunch of Trimbach at one point for insanely low prices, due to such a change. 750 ml bottles of SGN for $20. Gewurz VT in halves for $10.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

SteveEdmunds

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

985

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:05 am

Location

Berkeley, CA

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by SteveEdmunds » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:06 pm

I've switched distributors in a few different states over the years, and they've all asked me to buy back my inventory, which I've done. It usually has cost me a bit more than my FOB price, to cover their freight getting the wines there in the first place, plus whatever they've incurred in excise tax expenses. Only one was ever close to "revenge mode;" mainly, it was pretty business-like.
I don't know just how I'm supposed to play this scene, but I ain't afraid to learn...
no avatar
User

ChaimShraga

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

663

Joined

Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:53 am

Location

Tel-Aviv, Israel

Re: A Question Of Ethics

by ChaimShraga » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:33 am

Dale Williams wrote:I'll agree the most ethical thing you can do as a friend is buy all you can afford. Distributors do this to (1) clear their book of a product that has no future and (2)sometimes as a warning to other producers- "if you drop me you'll find your wine selling for less than your target price." As a friend the best thing you can do to help producer is to limit the time his/her wine in on open market for a discount price, which can affect public perception.


Thanks, now I need to convince my wife this is actually a good deed :D
Positive Discrimination For White Wines!
http://2GrandCru.blogspot.com

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Apple Bot, Babbar, ClaudeBot, Dale Williams, Google Adsense [Bot], Google AgentMatch and 0 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign