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David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
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David M. Bueker wrote:Is the Sonoma Coast the new Chablis, even with completely different soils?

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:I'm still struggling with the schizophrenia of German Pinot Noir! I am not ready to head down the hype-driven rabbit hole (you know who I am thinking of here) of German Chardonnay.

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:...and sadly dismissing warmer years as "solar" (a term I find ludicrous, as without the sun we are all doomed)..

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
36077
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Rahsaan wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:...and sadly dismissing warmer years as "solar" (a term I find ludicrous, as without the sun we are all doomed)..
Maybe I didn't drink broadly enough, but the 2018 Chablis that I tasted were all extremely atypical and not something I wanted to be drinking. The ripeness didn't fit the frame. So I stopped trying.
Tim York wrote:I guess that in a generation or so, quality production of Chardonnay (and PN) will have moved further north with great still wines coming out of Champagne, Germany and perhaps also England and Belgium (already creditable Chard out of Genoels-Elderen in eastern Belgian Flanders)..
David M. Bueker wrote:Rahsaan wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:...and sadly dismissing warmer years as "solar" (a term I find ludicrous, as without the sun we are all doomed)..
Maybe I didn't drink broadly enough, but the 2018 Chablis that I tasted were all extremely atypical and not something I wanted to be drinking. The ripeness didn't fit the frame. So I stopped trying.
I have a small stash of 2018s from Louis Michel. They are ripe for Chablis, but still taste like Chablis.
Rahsaan wrote:Tim York wrote:I guess that in a generation or so, quality production of Chardonnay (and PN) will have moved further north with great still wines coming out of Champagne, Germany and perhaps also England and Belgium (already creditable Chard out of Genoels-Elderen in eastern Belgian Flanders)..
Amazing. Don't think I've ever had a Belgian wine.

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
36077
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Rahsaan wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Rahsaan wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:...and sadly dismissing warmer years as "solar" (a term I find ludicrous, as without the sun we are all doomed)..
Maybe I didn't drink broadly enough, but the 2018 Chablis that I tasted were all extremely atypical and not something I wanted to be drinking. The ripeness didn't fit the frame. So I stopped trying.
I have a small stash of 2018s from Louis Michel. They are ripe for Chablis, but still taste like Chablis.
Yes, that's one of the fresher producers. Haven't explored as much as I could.
 Domaine de Chantemerle Chablis is a clear bright greenish gold color. Delicious scent, apples and mixed citrus, lime and tangerine.  Clean and fresh, dry and bright acidic flavors follow the nose, with stony-chalky minerality becoming evident in a long finish. There's no hint of oak in this pure, clean wine made with indigenous yeast and fermented and aged in stainless steel; modest 12.5% alcohol doesn't get in the way. U.S. importer: Skurnik Wines, NYC. (July 29, 2023)
Domaine de Chantemerle Chablis is a clear bright greenish gold color. Delicious scent, apples and mixed citrus, lime and tangerine.  Clean and fresh, dry and bright acidic flavors follow the nose, with stony-chalky minerality becoming evident in a long finish. There's no hint of oak in this pure, clean wine made with indigenous yeast and fermented and aged in stainless steel; modest 12.5% alcohol doesn't get in the way. U.S. importer: Skurnik Wines, NYC. (July 29, 2023)
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
36077
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Paul Winalski wrote:There's an extensive limestone layer that extends from Spain through France to the south of England. The white cliffs of Dover are one exposed section. It seems to create great wine-growing soils wherever it gets close to the surface. Champagne, the Cote d'Or, Cognac, and Jerez de la Frontera are all located on its outcroppings.
Wine from the South of England was well regarded in Roman times, before the climate became too cold. Perhaps chardonnay could find an exceptional soil partner there, now that it's warm enough again?
-Paul W
Paul Winalski wrote:Wine from the South of England was well regarded in Roman times, before the climate became too cold. Perhaps chardonnay could find an exceptional soil partner there, now that it's warm enough again?

Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut

Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Jenise wrote:Such a gorgeous wine. And getting better as more time passes.

David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut

Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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