Abbreviations! Grrrrrrrrrr! (rant - approach with caution!)

I get frustrated when I run into abbreviations that I cannot figure out. Would it be possible for all of you to share your most used abbreviations, and then I can compile them onto one reference list, and post it? It took me the longest time to figure out DRC as Domaine Romanee Conti, or CdR as Cotes du Rhone.....or has somebody already done this and I've totally missed it? I think if we have a reference list it would make this site more newbie friendly, unless all of us agree on no abbreviations, which I doubt most will want to comply.

As to abbreviations in general, I think we should generally try to only use abbreviations in a discussion after the whole word has been used. Once someone see Leoville las Cases or Nuits St. Georges, LLC or NSG is not too confusing (one would hope!).  

On a Usenet forum a group of us tried to compile a list (thanks to Mark Lipton for spearheading), and included it in the FAQs:

http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com/wine/section8.php#l16

[James Roscoe]

As to abbreviations in general, I think we should generally try to only use abbreviations in a discussion after the whole word has been used. Once someone see Leoville las Cases or Nuits St. Georges, LLC or NSG is not too confusing (one would hope!).

On a Usenet forum a group of us tried to compile a list (thanks to Mark Lipton for spearheading), and included it in the FAQs:

http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com/wine/section8.php#l16

Maybe Robin should include this on the FAQ IMHO? LOL!

As to abbreviations in general, I think we should generally try to only use abbreviations in a discussion after the whole word has been used. Once someone see Leoville las Cases or Nuits St. Georges, LLC or NSG is not too confusing (one would hope!).

On a Usenet forum a group of us tried to compile a list (thanks to Mark Lipton for spearheading), and included it in the FAQs:

http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com/wine/section8.php#l16

That is a great solution, Dale: spelling out the word/name completely in the original post, and then feel free to abbreviate in our responses. That is a fantastic list. You have made my day!

CdP is Chateauneuf de Pape. VV is Vielles Vignes or Old Vines. Also VT is Vendange Tardive which means late harvest, generally a sweeter wine. SGN is Selection of Grains Nobles (special harvest of four grape varieties grown in Alsace and indicating botrytized grapes). I will sometimes put Pinot Noir or Sauvignon Blanc in the title and P.N. or S.B. in the text (should be clear). It's the text messaging abbreviations that sometimes give me trouble. I know IMHO is In My Humble Opinion or Honest Opinion and BTW is By the Way and AFAIK is As Far As I Know but what is IIRC?

This is an appropriate thread to insert another reminder to identify the region for a wine--it is not self-evident to everyone reading the notes since we come with different levels of wine knowledge. Is that winery in California or Australia? Mussbacher is from Germany but is it from Rheinhessen, Rheinpfalz or Nahe (the answer is Pfalz but true!) Where are the Santa Rita Hills (SRH) as opposed to the Santa Lucia Highlands (these I know partly because I used to live in California). And I could even use a reminder from time to time of whether this wine is from Tuscany or Piedmont or Alto Adige or from a Sangiovese clone or Corvina grape or Nebbiolo.

but what is IIRC?
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If I recall correctly, IIRC stands for If I recall

Thank you, Peter. No longer a mystery.

Maybe Robin should include this on the FAQ IMHO? LOL!

You! Go to the corner - now!!!!

Maybe Robin should include this on the FAQ IMHO? LOL!

You! Go to the corner - now!!!!

ROFLMMFAO :p

mlf - malolactic fermentation
rs - residual sugar
g/l - grams per litre
abv - alcohol by volume, ditto for alc.
NZSB - New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc

Cheers,
Sue

I think we did have a thread like this a few years ago. Some of the ones I remember are:
FL - Finger Lakes (not Florida)
NOTL - Niagara-On-The-Lake
ML or MLF - Malo-Lactic Fermentation
VA - Volatile Acidity (vinegar), but it could be Vigrinia
TA - Total Acidity (measure of juice using titration)
OZ - Australia
RG - Robin

Paulo - thanks for asking this question!! Dale - thanks for that list!! I've printed it off and things are sooo much clearer to me now.

If I recall correctly, IIRC stands for If I recall

If I recall correctly, IIRC rather stands for If I Recall Correctly...


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I always thought it meant If I Really Care.

I guess it means what the writer intended it to mean which is how it gets confusing.

I get frustrated when I run into abbreviations that I cannot figure out.

Xanax running low?

I get frustrated when I run into abbreviations that I cannot figure out.

Xanax running low?

Is that what you take, Buckissimo?

[David M. Bueker]

S-OZSoRA=Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese
S-OZScRA=Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Schlossberg Riesling Auslese

It's a self defense mechanism at offlines.

IMNSHO abbreviations are a barrier, but heck, it might help folks here communicate with teenagers.

Is that what you take, Buckissimo?

Only if Carole drags me to an opera...

Is that what you take, Buckissimo?

Only if Carole drags me to an opera...

Randy being dragged by Carole to the opera: "But I don't WANNA go!!! BUAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Randy being dragged by Carole to the opera: "But I don't WANNA go!!! BUAAAAAAAAAA!!

So that was you laughing on the corner! Okie and opera just don't mix.

but what is IIRC?
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If I recall correctly, IIRC stands for If I recall

Peter, the former is correct. IIRC is If I Recall Correctly. I think I have a whole list of Acronyms for the internet, but I don't think many of them are for wine writing.

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So that was you laughing on the corner! Okie and opera just don't mix. [/quote]

Somehow....I am not surprised!

CdP is Chateauneuf de Pape.

...except when it's Cotes de Provence, an ambiguity that has caught me before, which led indirectly to the excellent list that Dale compiled and linked to in this thread. Other people use CNdP or even C9dP when referring to Chateauneuf, perhaps to avoid just such an ambiguity.

HTH
HAND
WYSIWYG

Mark Lipton