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Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

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Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Jay Labrador » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:41 pm

I was asked this by a friend of mine and I have no idea. Anybody know the answer? If there aren't any red late harvest wines in Germany, why not?
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by JoePerry » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:04 pm

I know Kracher makes one in Austria.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by michael dietrich » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:53 pm

About 5 years ago a friend brought a Lemberger Spatlese Trocken. It is the best red German wine I have ever had.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Rahsaan » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:58 am

There are "many" spatlese and auslese spatburgunders. I don't know how "late" harvest they actually are, but it seems like long hang time would be something ideal in Germany (as opposed to Puglia).
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:02 am

There's plenty. I've even had spatburgunder beerenauslese.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Rahsaan » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:09 am

David M. Bueker wrote:There's plenty. I've even had spatburgunder beerenauslese.


But in this case not trocken I assume? Must be interesting. Like port? But less jammy? And not fortified. So then not like port at all I guess..

I should have mentioned that I've only had trocken spatburgunder spatlese and auslese wines.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by wnissen » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:23 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:There's plenty. I've even had spatburgunder beerenauslese.


But in this case not trocken I assume? Must be interesting. Like port? But less jammy? And not fortified. So then not like port at all I guess..

According to Rudi Weist, it could be as low as 110 oeschle, or 14.9% potential alcohol. That's not port, it's only as alcoholic as a light-bodied California pinot noir.

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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:31 pm

The spatburgunder BA I refer to was a sweet wine. It was the color of salmon & tasted of strawberries, spice and pine resin. Weird but enjoyable.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Oliver McCrum » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:44 pm

I know this wasn't what you meant, but there's a 'red Auslese' made in Italy; in the Alto Adige there is a wine made mostly of the Schiava grape called Kaltersee Auslese. It's very similar to Santa Maddelena.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Victorwine » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:53 pm

Question for David.
Does this mean the QmP classification system applies to all grapes grown in Germany or just a selected few? I assume each grape variety and region will have their own “ripeness level” for a particular category or level.

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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:56 pm

Victorwine wrote:Question for David.
Does this mean the QmP classification system applies to all grapes grown in Germany or just a selected few? I assume each grape variety and region will have their own “ripeness level” for a particular category or level.

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There is a large and daunting table which lists every approved grape variety for each region & the associated oeschle levels each must attain in order to be QbA, Kabinett...TBA. Every grape and regions has its own separate requirements. Most are a joke.
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Re: Is there such a thing as red Spatlese or Auslese?

by Victorwine » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:05 pm

Thanks David.

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