Jenise
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Jenise
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Jenise wrote:Alex, so Montrachet would be pronounced MON ra SHET?
Jenise
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Rahsaan wrote:Jenise wrote:Alex, so Montrachet would be pronounced MON ra SHET?
The second T is also silent. Alex probably assumed people did that because it's so common in French.
So, Monrashay.
Chaz A wrote:The presence of the umlaut is certainly unusual for the French language. Moët the family name apparently is rooted in a Dutch ancestor, and in that case, the -t would not be silent.
Jacques Levy wrote:I can live with Petroos, Grand Crew, Doocroo, Chicken Cordon Bloo, but the most grating pronunciation for me is Gruaud Larose; English speakers like to say "Greward", I don't know where they found the second "r".
John Tomasso wrote:Jacques Levy wrote:the most grating pronunciation for me is Gruaud Larose; English speakers like to say "Greward", I don't know where they found the second "r".
Rather than just cursing the darkness, please light a candle and illustrate the correct pronunciation of the above.
AlexR wrote:
An umlaut and a tréma and a diaeresis are all the same thing. Not speaking German, I have no idea of its function in that language. All I'm saying is that the name for the diacritic is the same in all three languages.
AlexR wrote:Of course, it works the other way around!
Bernard Kouchner, the French foreign minister was recently in Israel. In speaking about Syria or Iraq (I forget which) he said that in case of aggression, "We will hit them".
However, with his accent, he was understood to say "We will *eat* them", which left the journalists perplexed at such a vigorous - and unusual - form of defensive reaction!
Jenise wrote:I've even gone so far as to consider taking French lessons to, if nothing less, increase my confidence level, but you just pointed out two excellent examples of why that sometimes seems futile. There are so many exceptions! Btw, "Cos" I had understood, Moet I had not known until I read your words just now.
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Wink Lorch wrote:
And Madame de Gaulle - way back when - was being interviewed on British TV after the resignation of her husband as Président of the République de France ... She was asked what she was looking forward to on her husband's retirement ... her answer: "A penis" ... there was a brief, poignant pause until the interviewer caught up and said quickly: "Ah, happiness!"
Wink Lorch wrote:
And Madame de Gaulle - way back when - was being interviewed on British TV after the resignation of her husband as Président of the République de France ... She was asked what she was looking forward to on her husband's retirement ... her answer: "A penis" ... there was a brief, poignant pause until the interviewer caught up and said quickly: "Ah, happiness!"
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Bruno Prats was just being polite (and witty). I confirm that you do indeed pronounce the "s" in Cos d'Estournel or Cos Labory. And that it thus rhymes with "hoss".
As for the "t" in Moët, it's the other way around. Even if there *weren't" a diaeresis, you would still pronounce the "t" in Moët et Chandon because ot the liason between the consonant "t" at the end of the word and the vowel of the following word ("et"). So, it would be impossible for a native speaker to pronounce that "Mo-ay" in that context.
Tim York wrote:Wink Lorch wrote:
And Madame de Gaulle - way back when - was being interviewed on British TV after the resignation of her husband as Président of the République de France ... She was asked what she was looking forward to on her husband's retirement ... her answer: "A penis" ... there was a brief, poignant pause until the interviewer caught up and said quickly: "Ah, happiness!"
Wink, I will treasure this one. A real classic which i have never heard before!
Jenise
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Ryan Maderak wrote:Actually, this one turned up in the Beverly Hillbillies movie. And for the record, I've only ever seen the movie once, and that was in grade-school. I just have an extraordinary capacity for movie quotes and trivia.
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