Tim York wrote:The INAO is surpassing itself in ineptitude. What a mess .
Of course the INAO always has the VDP to look down on.
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Tim York wrote:The INAO is surpassing itself in ineptitude. What a mess .
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David M. Bueker wrote:Thanks Rosemary (for those who don't know who she is, Rosemary George is a Master of Wine!).
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Tim, any chance you might be able to track down some wines from Negly? There used to be a wonderful white here but now zippo! The reds have a very good reputation I hear.
Also how about Grès de Montpelier? Lots of chat on the UK board about this area. I do have some Assas!
I did find this info on a website.....>
http://www.coteaux-languedoc.com/englis ... _fiche.asp
Jon Hesford wrote:
This is just a sign of the two worlds that I mentioned. On the one hand you have the best, most famous and most desirable producers happy to make their wine under whatever regime they feel suits them, be it AOC, IGP (previously trading as Vin de Pays) or Vin de France. In the other world you have an organisation determined to put a framework together that resembles the far more desirable regions of Burgundy, Loire, Rhone and Bordeaux. The problem is that these regions were really classified, in desirability even if not on paper, a long time ago based on their much longer history of striving to make great wine.
In my view, the LR is far more similar and has far more to learn from the New World than it has from Burgundy. New Zealand and the Pacific Northwest make brilliant Pinot Noirs to rival Burgundy but they have not found the need to ringfence each village, adopt irrelevant rules and begin an almost arbitrary system of ranking. The public does not need a government department to tell them which wines are best. Critics, competitions (perhaps) and consumer reviews like Cellartracker and, most importantly, their own palate will tell them that. If you pick up any book on the wines of the LR, it will be out of date. In just a 10 year period the ranking of producers has changed dramatically along with the list of areas they farm. There seems little point laying down a set of Appellations when the winemaking is still evolving.
GrahamTigg
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GrahamTigg
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:23 am
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David M. Bueker wrote:I've always attributed hangovers to insufficient hydration.
GrahamTigg wrote:As well as Rosemary's blog I'd also recommend Juliet Bruce Jones's. She is also an MW and based in the Minervois for most of the time.
http://languedocwinetales.blogspot.com
For another winemakers perspective then look at Ryan O'Connell's http://love-that-languedoc.com. Some of the video episodes are fun and excellent.
GrahamTigg
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:23 am
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Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Thanks for these links Graham. I do check in on Juliet`s website but reports seem sparse at times?
Ryan is a hoot and so knowledgeable! I emailed him when I got in touch with you but no reply...as yet! Are you in contact with him at all?
Robin Garr wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:I've always attributed hangovers to insufficient hydration.
I'm eager to hear Jon's response, too. Wild guess: He's looking at histamines, perhaps more available for extraction from chips than from staves.
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