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by SFJoe » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:09 pm

François Audouze wrote:oldest alcohol
oldest Loire 1921 Chateau d'Epiré
My oldest Jura will jump from 1911 to 1864 in 15 days, as I will open a 1864 Chateau Chalon in family with friends.

François,
Was the Epiré dry? From first principles, I suppose they could have gone either way in '21. I've never had a dry Loire wine older than '46, although I've had wines from '35 and '36 that had mostly dried out in bottle.

The Chateau Chalon sounds quite fascinating.

Someone's birth year? :shock:
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by François Audouze » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:45 pm

Discretely sweet.
I have drunk some and I have probably one or two more. This is the most elegant form of Coteaux du Layon.
Old wines are younger than what is generally considered
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by SFJoe » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:01 pm

François Audouze wrote:Discretely sweet.
This is the most elegant form of Coteaux du Layon.

So it is not from Savennieres? I know the estate only from their recent wines in Savennieres, or perhaps it is not the same estate at all?
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by Paul Winalski » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:47 pm

Oldest Bordeaux I've ever had: 1929 Mouton-Rothschild and 1929 Latour, drunk in 1989. These wines finally made me realize why wine experts go ga-ga over old Bordeaux.

Oldest Burgundy: 1947 de Vogue Musigny, drunk in 2000. It was fading, but still magnificently complex.

Oldest Madiera: 1865 Bual from Barbeito, if I recall correctly. It was drunk on the 4th of July in a toast to the Union victory in the Civil War (hey, this is New Hampshire).

I have some 1834 Malvazia Madiera that I hope to drink on its 200th birthday.

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